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Title: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: Talvin on April 16, 2008, 06:33:50 PM
Hi folks!

I have finally finished a first, early demo of my new song. It's only a rough mix and I can't change much at the moment. Kasimiruslav played the (real) guitars and the bass on this one. He also did the drum recording and made a rough mix. After that I added the vocals and all the other instruments such as e-piano, fake guitars and strings. I have to send him my recordings for a future version.

I posted this at an early stage because I'm curious about what you think.  :)

Cheers,

Tal


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Talvin on April 17, 2008, 03:47:44 PM
Nobody?  :(


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on April 17, 2008, 05:12:09 PM
Talvin,

Sweet harmonies & a lush bass line...reminds me of The Smiths back in the 80's.

Very decent for a rough draft...look foward to the final cut. O0

Thom


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: kara on April 17, 2008, 05:46:03 PM
Good song as we are used to from you.

Like Elwood said, i hear the good bass line  8)
But I have to listen very hard, it will need some work (compression, EQ,...) at the moment the only thing it does is blur the mix  ;D

Looking forward to this

k


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: folderol on April 17, 2008, 06:23:57 PM
Very nice work. Good song.

I agree the bass needs sorting out, and also think the vocal needs to come forward some.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Talvin on April 17, 2008, 06:38:51 PM
OK. I reworked the vocals. The rest is up to Kasimiruslav. :-)


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: MAD on April 18, 2008, 02:53:50 AM
Hi Talvin,

    this song has great potential. You have a strong arrangement, and really interesting vocals and backing parts (nice bass too). I would agree with Kara, that the instruments need some massaging (EQ etc..) to get them to fit perfectly into place. If this is only a rough cut I can't wait to hear the final one  ;D


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Talvin on April 18, 2008, 05:20:33 AM
Thanks Mad.  :)

The "problem" is I only have an mp3 of the bass, drum and real guitar part so I can't work on it. The virtual instruments I used usually don't need much EQqing.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Talvin on April 18, 2008, 12:00:00 PM
Did anyone listen to the new version (reworked vocals)? The rest will follow...


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: folderol on April 18, 2008, 06:49:18 PM
Just had time to listen to it. A definite improvement. Nice and clear now with more presence.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Martin E on April 18, 2008, 08:56:55 PM
Great song, Talvin. Top quality.

The sound quality of the track isn't that great at the moment ( even sounds a bit distorted at times) But I take it that will be fixed in the definite version.

I would probably give the chorus a bit more body. But that's a remark I've made once before so never mind me.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Talvin on April 18, 2008, 09:02:07 PM
Thanks.  :)I can't mix the song as I don't have all the audio files I'd need. I sent Kasimiruslav my vocal takes and all the virtual stuff. I am sure he will work on the sound. There was some clipping in the wav file he sent me.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Martin E on April 18, 2008, 09:04:24 PM
Thanks.  :)I can't mix the song as I don't have all the audio files I'd need. I sent Kasimiruslav my vocal takes and all the virtual stuff. I am sure he will work on the sound. There was some clipping in the wav file he sent me.

Yup, that's what I understood.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Laguna Rising on April 18, 2008, 10:14:01 PM
Interesting composition Talvin !
An impressive song with many nice melodies and solid construction, I like your vocal touch on it.
Well done

Cheers


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: MarioD on April 20, 2008, 12:55:23 AM
Talvin, this is a very good song.

Clean it up a tad, it’s been said previously so I will not reiterate, and it will sound great.  But this is a super start!


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Talvin on April 21, 2008, 07:57:00 AM
Thanks.

I'll probably get his 3 tracks this week so I can mix it properly.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: folderol on April 21, 2008, 07:34:53 PM
 :;


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Moon on April 21, 2008, 07:40:42 PM
Tal,
Boy, you sure rock ! Beautiful ! Great music with great lyrics.

I do have a request though... Please go to www.kara-moon.com and join as a KM artist. Your music belongs there and you'll make a lot fans happy here.  ::)

Moon


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning
Post by: Talvin on April 21, 2008, 08:37:26 PM
Thanks. Of course I will do that.  :)


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *new version*
Post by: Talvin on April 26, 2008, 12:23:55 PM
The last mix was overcompressed. I fixed that now although some of you might think it's still too much.



Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *new version*
Post by: Laguna Rising on April 26, 2008, 04:19:03 PM
Hi Talvin
No, I'm getting used to nowdays' standars of compression and it doesn't seems to much to me.
you can ear it just a tiny bit 'squashed' when the overall sound pressure rises. For example the chorus : 1.03 - 1.30
great mix btw  8)

Cheers


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *new version*
Post by: folderol on April 26, 2008, 04:24:13 PM
The last mix was overcompressed. I fixed that now although some of you might think it's still too much.


I had a quick listen and my first though was that it sounded 'clearer' but I couldn't think why... that explains it!


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *new version*
Post by: Martin E on April 26, 2008, 07:50:35 PM
Had some time to listen now, Talvin.

I'm not really bothered by the compression in this mix. What I don't particular like about it is the sound of the high-hat, ride and cymbals which I think are way too present. If you would tame that area of the drummix the whole mix would benefit I think. These three parts also seem to be competing in the same frequency area as the guitars and some of the vocals. I think there's some room for improvement there ;)

Still a very good song. 8)


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *new version*
Post by: Talvin on April 26, 2008, 10:59:29 PM
I only have an audio drum file. Do you think you can tame the hihats by applying some eq?


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *new version*
Post by: Martin E on April 26, 2008, 11:23:34 PM
Yes that's possible. But it will affect the sound of the snare as well. A matter of compromise then.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *new version*
Post by: Talvin on April 28, 2008, 07:35:13 AM
Any one else had a listen to the new mix?


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *new version*
Post by: kara on April 29, 2008, 08:32:12 AM
I like it !
I do agree with Martin, but only because he mentionned it, without him I would never have noticed  :-\

k


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *new version*
Post by: Talvin on May 01, 2008, 01:57:31 PM
Thanks Kara. I still think the last mix was crap so I had another go at it. This one is definitely better I think. I'd be happy if some of you could have another listen.



Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: folderol on May 01, 2008, 06:27:04 PM
Yes I think this is a better compromise.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: MarioD on May 01, 2008, 07:54:15 PM
Yes I think this is a better compromise.

+1


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: SoundKlops on May 02, 2008, 09:08:12 AM
Really great! (http://bestsmileys.com/listening/2.gif)


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: Talvin on May 02, 2008, 02:44:58 PM
Thanks. :-)

The only think I can improve is probably the vocals now...


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: MarioD on May 02, 2008, 08:03:04 PM
Thanks. :-)

The only think I can improve is probably the vocals now...

Personally I wouldn’t change a thing,

Just MHO


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: Talvin on May 02, 2008, 08:17:10 PM
Someone said they're sometimes out of tune and they could be a bit more emotional...As it was the second vocal take, he might be right...


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *new version*
Post by: Martin E on May 02, 2008, 09:01:45 PM
Thanks Kara. I still think the last mix was crap so I had another go at it. This one is definitely better I think. I'd be happy if some of you could have another listen.



Just back. This one is really sounding better. Good job.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: Laguna Rising on May 04, 2008, 09:34:08 AM
Yes I think this is a better compromise.

+1

Thanks Kara. I still think the last mix was crap so I had another go at it. This one is definitely better I think. I'd be happy if some of you could have another listen.

Just back. This one is really sounding better. Good job.

Great !


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: Talvin on May 04, 2008, 08:48:01 PM
Thanks.  :D

Today I rerecorded the vocals as someone wanted me to sing with more feeling. As I know the song a little better now I think I definitely could perform it better. There should be no more out-of-tune parts either.


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: MarioD on May 04, 2008, 10:58:52 PM
It must have been hard to improve on the original but you did it.

Perfect!


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: Talvin on May 05, 2008, 03:58:42 PM
Thanks Mario.  :)

It is probably a matter of taste now which vocal version you prefer...


Title: Re: Every day's a new beginning *1st May version*
Post by: Laguna Rising on May 05, 2008, 07:02:13 PM
I wasn't expecting another version of this song, but I'm glad you did it since I agree with Mario this even better than the former one.

Quote
It is probably a matter of taste now which vocal version you prefer...
:-\ that's true, and this last version is the chosen one
This vocal-style is closer to what I expect (and I appreciate) from you

Cheers