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Title: Will's Wandering
Post by: offthewall on February 14, 2010, 09:57:41 PM
Last month Folderol posted this 'Wandering' and insinuated that a bit of collab would be welcome.  ::)

I eventually got round to having a listen to this.

Here I kick off with just a single finger-pick guitar line to try and establish the 6/8 timing which is there in the original composition.  The way that this piece has been built up, initially, tends to disguise the rhythm so I played this part in an attempt to regain some 'fluidity'.  :-X

To follow on I intend (at the moment  :-\ ) to add a melody on the whistle and, possibly, augment this with some bouzouki ..... can you tell I've been away from the folky stuff for too long.  ::)

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on February 15, 2010, 12:49:07 AM
Nice little brew your cooking up here...looking forward to hearing the rest of the ingredients. 8)

A lovely job you've done here James! :D

-Thom


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: Oren on February 15, 2010, 01:16:02 AM
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A lovely job you've done here James! :D

A perfect accompaniment to the existing music - I am blown away by your acoustic instrument production skills, Mr. Fraser!


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: folderol on February 15, 2010, 06:46:25 PM
Mmmm.
I very much like what you have done with this so far :-


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: offthewall on February 15, 2010, 10:35:57 PM
 8)
Thanks for the kind comments.

For the next instalment I have added a whistle melody line.  I have also doubled up and panned the original synth part, with the guitar and whistle going midway between them.

I have a strong feel towards developing this a bit further.   8)
My instinct is to leave this instrumentation as it is, then add a bridge section with a minimal selection of the chord structure but with a different instrument choice, then return to the original theme to finish.  :-X

We shall see what develops over the next few days .......  I got to say that I am truly enjoying getting back in to something.
Thanks, Will.   :-*

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: kara on February 16, 2010, 07:42:36 AM
The guitar part adds a solid foundation to a song that was wandering a bit, very good idea.
The melody adds a story to the song....

I do think that the melody comes in to fast, give the song a bit time to build up  ;)

k


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: offthewall on February 16, 2010, 08:33:49 AM
Quote from: kara
I do think that the melody comes in to fast, give the song a bit time to build up

I think you are probably right, although I did feel that the chord structure does not allow the melody to have a 'late start' (IMO).  The next step may be that I will stick an introduction on to compensate.  :-\

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: folderol on February 16, 2010, 06:59:20 PM
I quite agree with this idea. I would think a guitar intro would be best. That way the synth remains in a supporting role which I think it fits well.

Would it help if I sent you a 'throw-away' copy with a leading click track of a few bars built in so you can synchronse more easily?

Like the whistle :)


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: offthewall on February 16, 2010, 10:19:30 PM
 :o
This darn tune has been haunting me all night and day  :-X :P

This latest incarnation has an intro, followed by the main set of themes running into a guitar/bouzouki bridge, then back to the initial theme to finish.
I'm quite happy with the development of this ..... ::) but .... ::)
I feel that I would like to make it into a 'song' now.  :'(
Trouble is I don't think I can sing it  8)
Time will tell  :-\

Thanks Will .... you are making my life a misery, mate  ::)   8)

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: kara on February 17, 2010, 08:00:21 AM
This is realy comming together  8)
I like it a lot as it is at the moment.
Not sure if it needs singing....

k


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: folderol on February 17, 2010, 06:43:36 PM

Thanks Will .... you are making my life a misery, mate  ::)   8)

 ;)
James
Just trying to keep you off the streets and out of trouble :)

I really like what you're doing with this :-


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: Oren on February 19, 2010, 09:35:13 AM
I really like what you're doing with this :-

Witnessing this metamorphosis has become like a musician's spectator sport - thrills, spills, and no clue as to where it's going next.
Go Will!  8) :D


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: folderol on February 19, 2010, 07:58:55 PM
It's James that is doing all the hard work.

I gave him a bit of coarse hemp string and he's weaving silk strands into it.


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: offthewall on February 19, 2010, 09:50:55 PM
 8)
OK .... I've given up on the 'song' idea.
I am just about to do some audio cleaning and a bit of mastering to wrap this project up, from my end.
Will .... shall I send you my files for you to compile as YOU would like it?

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: folderol on February 20, 2010, 04:49:34 PM
Sounds a good plan to me - It's about time I put a bit more into this :)


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: offthewall on February 20, 2010, 10:59:16 PM
 8)
Will.... files sent ... check your emails.

This is MY final mix  ::)

All I have done is, as I suggested, some audio cleaning and a bit of mastering.

Now let us see what Will comes up with  >:D

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: offthewall on February 20, 2010, 11:01:48 PM
 8)

And in MP3 format.

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: folderol on February 21, 2010, 11:18:28 PM
Well I've spent most of the day on this, but being as delicate as I can. James you've really done me proud and turned a scruffy cygnet into a swan.

So here is the mix I've come up with.


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: folderol on February 21, 2010, 11:21:07 PM
... and for the ogg-icaly challenged :)


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: kara on February 22, 2010, 09:52:43 AM
Great song guys, a very good collaboration  :-
Alltough different, I like both mixes, can't decide which one I like the best  ::)
My personnal mix style would be closer to the mix of Will, I think

k


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: Oren on February 22, 2010, 05:04:18 PM

Great song guys, a very good collaboration  :-


This piece is very much a folk song, particularly in light of the idea that if the "folk" had a synthesizer, they would probably deploy it exactly as Will has.
Or could we just categorize James and Will as "folks"...?... :D
James' mix took the song to it's ideal conclusion, and Will refined it further - what a team! :;


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: offthewall on February 23, 2010, 03:48:47 PM
 :D
Thanks for listening, and for the kind comments, guys.

I got to say a big thank you to Will for letting me loose with this one.

I have had a lot of personal 'ups and downs' over the past few months and it has really helped me to have gotten involved with this tune.  Great therapy.  8)

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: folderol on February 23, 2010, 07:37:53 PM
This has been a great collab for me too. I hoped James would pick up on it, and he sure did O0


Title: Re: Will's Wandering
Post by: offthewall on February 23, 2010, 09:15:42 PM
 ::)
In future .... don't hope ..... just ask  ::)     :-*


 ;)
James