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Title: Rain (England)
Post by: folderol on August 04, 2007, 05:01:06 PM
Well, this is my response to a washed out holiday in the middle 1990s.

This was in England where we are experts on rain :)


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: Katzafatz on August 06, 2007, 10:31:40 AM
Hi Foderol,

I think this is a beautiful depressive song. Only the reverb is a bit too much.

Katzafatz


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on August 07, 2007, 01:33:19 AM
Hey Folderol,

I agree with Andreas,the song does have a nice melody,but a bit too much reverb,as there was some slight distortion I heard through my monitors.

About a quarter of the way through the song,I was hoping for a bass & drum track,but nothing heavy,just something to give more structure to the song-as I think it would really dress the song up nicely.

Elwood


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: folderol on August 07, 2007, 06:35:40 PM
Thanks for your comments guys. It is actually quite a long time since I listened to this critically, and I must agree that there is too much reverb, certainly on the first part.

->elwood blues
I'm surprised about your comment about bass. There is a bass line that comes in quite early. It is a very smooth instrument so maybe it is too indistinct. It would probably disappear on headphones.

I will have to look at this again.


So much to do... So little time...


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: folderol on August 11, 2007, 04:12:14 PM
Ok. I've just completed a whole remix of this. I've changes some of the instruments, made the bass more prominent and dropped the reverb level.

So do you think it is an improvement?


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: folderol on August 14, 2007, 08:45:15 PM
I'm a bit disappointed that nobody has commented on the changes. It doesn't even look as if anyone has downloaded this remix :(


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: offthewall on August 14, 2007, 09:59:20 PM
"nobody has commented on the changes"
 ???
I think our other members are 'not English' so do not recognise the nuances of our particular type of rain!  ;)
Personally, I think you have nailed the atmosphere quite perfectly. This is a wonderful piece of music, and yet another one which I will be squirrelling away to, someday, play my real instruments over (if I can ever find the time)

Keep up the good work!

James


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: folderol on August 14, 2007, 10:43:55 PM
Thanks very much.

Unfortunately the weather seems to agree with you. It woke me up (otherwise i wouldn't be here this time of night!)


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: MarioD on August 14, 2007, 11:24:50 PM
Ok. I've just completed a whole remix of this. I've changes some of the instruments, made the bass more prominent and dropped the reverb level.

So do you think it is an improvement?

I did not listen to the first posting so I can’t comment on if this is an improvement or not.

But I will say this was EXCELLENT!  You have a very nice blend of sounds and melodies.

If I may ask what were your sound sources for this?

This was top shelf - MarioD


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: kara on August 15, 2007, 06:08:19 AM
It is an improvement, mix sounds very clean now

k


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: elv on August 16, 2007, 01:17:49 PM
The new mix does indeed sound cleaner, but I liked the first version better for some reason.
Great melody


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: folderol on August 16, 2007, 06:38:07 PM
Thanks a lot for all your comments guys.

-> MarioD
The Vibraphone (2nd lead) and the piano at the end come from a SoundCanvas (original 1991 model) all the rerst are produced by ZynAddSubFX. Recently I posted a zip file of the instrument patches I created, and some of these are used in 'Rain'

A sequencer was used purely as a free-form MIDI recording device and no timing correction or quantisation was used anywhere. I just kept recording new tracks against the old until I got it right, then deleted the crap :) However, in this latest version I slightly shortened two gaps between 'verses'.

-> elv
Sometimes you just can't win  ??? Ah well. Just keep whichever version you like. I'm a born squirrel so can recreate either quite easily :)


Title: Re: Rain (England)
Post by: MarioD on August 16, 2007, 10:48:33 PM

A sequencer was used purely as a free-form MIDI recording device and no timing correction or quantisation was used anywhere. I just kept recording new tracks against the old until I got it right, then deleted the crap :) However, in this latest version I slightly shortened two gaps between 'verses'.

VERY impressive - MarioD