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« Reply #90 on: January 23, 2008, 08:26:43 PM » |
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Kara, The first 2/3 of that cyber-guitar thing are a bit shaky. I was hoping we wouldn't actually have to use it... (Mario may still come through and bail me out with some real guitar in that spot) A suggestion: Will's vocal could be re-positioned about one second later in the song and boosted 2dB to give it the definition it deserves. Then, drop my little comment back in the mix by cutting 250 Hz (and below) by 12dB, and lowering the overall level by 2dB. Voila. C'est tout. Bonne nuit. (my vocals were submitted without any tonal shaping or effects applied so you could adjust them to your taste )
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« Reply #91 on: January 23, 2008, 09:37:13 PM » |
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Kara, The first 2/3 of that cyber-guitar thing are a bit shaky. I was hoping we wouldn't actually have to use it... (Mario may still come through and bail me out with some real guitar in that spot) A suggestion: Will's vocal could be re-positioned about one second later in the song and boosted 2dB to give it the definition it deserves. Then, drop my little comment back in the mix by cutting 250 Hz (and below) by 12dB, and lowering the overall level by 2dB. Voila. C'est tout. Bonne nuit. (my vocals were submitted without any tonal shaping or effects applied so you could adjust them to your taste ) Oren, if you could send me a mp3 with the areas you want a guitar lead in, with the current leads erased, and the bpm I will try to add something. I find it extremely hard to play over a lead; I always end up riffing with the lead. No promises but I will try.
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« Reply #92 on: January 23, 2008, 10:27:47 PM » |
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@Oren : Thanks for the advice, it sounds way better now. The end part is allmost ready now. Here is what I've done: - I've brought back in the rythm part of MarioD after the second vocal verse. - As this had the perfect length to fit before the last 1/3 of the cyber solo, I've cut out the first 2/3. As you can hear, we only need another short solo between the second vocal verse and the last solo that is allready there. So, a litle effort from somebody please
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« Reply #93 on: January 23, 2008, 10:41:38 PM » |
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If you're stuck you could take a bit out of the extra part I submitted at...« Reply #51 James
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« Reply #94 on: January 23, 2008, 10:46:41 PM » |
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Please- Kara, insert more of Mario's rhythm guitar in place of that guitar solo behind Oren's second verse. Whoever played that is terrible, and it distracts from his vocals.. Sounds like Mario will take a shot at the end solo...
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« Reply #95 on: January 23, 2008, 10:48:06 PM » |
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James, I'm realy sorry, but i didn't see this post of you, completly overlooked it Could you separate both tracks and post them again ? I would prefer that you post ape or flac, since I'm having troubles to sync mp3's with the mix. k
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« Reply #96 on: January 23, 2008, 10:51:50 PM » |
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I wonder who played that.... I actually like it, it makes the difference with the first verse What do others think of this part ?k Please- Kara, insert more of Mario's rhythm guitar in place of that guitar solo behind Oren's second verse. Whoever played that is terrible, and it distracts from his vocals.. Sounds like Mario will take a shot at the end solo...
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« Reply #97 on: January 24, 2008, 01:03:53 AM » |
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Kara, here is an attempt at an ending guitar lead. Feel free to use it if you want. If you’re looking for something else feel free to ask.
Note the only way I could line this up was to add silence at the first measure, record the last measures then combine the clips. SO this will line up at measure 1:1:0. You will have to cut out all those measures of silence. Sorry, that is the only way I know how to do it without a tempo (BPM) map.
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« Reply #98 on: January 24, 2008, 03:26:11 AM » |
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Kara, If you want that last comment to blend even better, add a little reverb to roughly match Will's effects. ______________________________ I just plugged Mario's MP3 guitar solo into PowerTracks and it lines up nicely with the latest version. EQ, effects, and levels are about right, too! (nice move, Longhair... ) ______________________________ Bob's solo guitar style has that Neil Young vibe If anything, maybe back it off in the mix a little to ensure the lyrics are clearly intelligible. Schweet!
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« Reply #99 on: January 24, 2008, 02:00:20 PM » |
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Thanx Oren,
I usually send my tracks sans effects but I liked these effects with this song. I thought they fit.
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« Reply #100 on: January 24, 2008, 06:57:36 PM » |
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The new version .... I think I finally have all the levels right. But... I tought of something, when listening to the song with fresh ears I asked my self : but what on earth happened with that brass section, they had a hart attack after the first section So, I was thinking since some people are not convinced of the guitar under orens voice in the second verse, I could trade this with some brass action around Orens voice. What do you think, rharv ? k
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« Reply #101 on: January 24, 2008, 07:30:42 PM » |
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Kara, Great mix! The song seems to have a direction now, starting with a very organic Dixieland Blues vibe, then gradually moving towards a more electric style, while staying with that cool drums and bass foundation that you and Bob concocted. Bob's grunge guitar nicely compliments that theme. If you want to take this direction a step further, try a little phase shift or flange effect on my voice in the second verse to give the impression we're moving into cyber-space, where things are somehow just... different.... (you may also want to flange/phase the last comment to maintain the effect) Oren.
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« Reply #102 on: January 24, 2008, 08:05:32 PM » |
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Kara.
Great mix!
I like it the way it is but if you want to bring the horns back in I believe adding them as background to the last leads would be the way to go, i.e right after the last vocal and ending at the gun shot. Kind a like closing every out, i.e. finalizing it.
Just my thoughts - MarioD
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« Reply #103 on: January 24, 2008, 08:15:48 PM » |
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I'll go see what I can come up with.
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« Reply #104 on: January 24, 2008, 09:09:03 PM » |
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Ending horns are here- http://www.yourbestsound.com/Media/bluhorn2.apegive them a shot BTW, nice on the gtr, Mario & nice mix so far Kara..
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