"Ghosting" Chuck Berry, McCartney, and the Beach Boys.

[kara]

Yep i had my feet tapping from the second measure

k
 

[manning]

Kara.
yep...if its gonna be done its gotta be a toe tapper.
with lotsa hooks everywhere.

[Oren]

Here is a rhythm guitar track with some drum action to count it in. It's based on Ed's arrangement, but with the tempo adjusted to an even 152 beats per minute.

...and now you all know why I seldom attempt to play rhythm guitar...

[kara]

...and now you all know why I seldom attempt to play rhythm guitar...

Sound rock steady to me...

k

[offthewall]

 
Here is my first attempt with Jamstix.
Using a basic drummer and just letting him do his thing with NO tweaking.

See if this can work and I will try to find time to do a bass part tomorrow. 

 
James

[manning]

i got a question..
in this new version ie beach.. are we gonna come up with a new chord structure ??
i'm just a bit confused.
if you chaps want...i could use the lyrics i posted up thread
for beach and try a vocal plus arrange ??
do ya want me to av a bash at that ??
useing offthewalls trak ?? as a basis ??
the other aspect is..if its bout a band partying on the beach n
haveing fun we gotta make it surfing like ??

just a suggestion..but how bout this idea ??
to flush the shebang out..we sorta do a demo version ruff ,
then go to town on a final once all the kinks are sorted ??

[manning]

this is weird..i dont see the post i just made..
unless i clik the reply button ...is it gremlins ??

[Oren]

this is weird..i dont see the post i just made..
unless i clik the reply button ...is it gremlins ??

It's there, pilgrim...

[Oren]

Here is my first attempt with Jamstix.
Using a basic drummer and just letting him do his thing with NO tweaking.

See if this can work and I will try to find time to do a bass part tomorrow.

This is my second collaboration with a Jamstix drum track, and the program tends to play behind the beat and generate fills at odd places.
The creators of Jamstix recommend it as a practice tool. To function as a recorded drum track, it needs to be nudged forward to get it on the beat, and some copy-cut-paste action applied to get the "fills" located more advantageously.

James - would you generate two more instances of the same track with different drummers, so we have a selection of "feels" to work with?

[Oren]

i got a question..
in this new version ie beach.. are we gonna come up with a new chord structure ??
i'm just a bit confused.
if you chaps want...i could use the lyrics i posted up thread
for beach and try a vocal plus arrange ??
do ya want me to av a bash at that ??
useing offthewalls trak ?? as a basis ??
the other aspect is..if its bout a band partying on the beach n
haveing fun we gotta make it surfing like ??

just a suggestion..but how bout this idea ??
to flush the shebang out..we sorta do a demo version ruff ,
then go to town on a final once all the kinks are sorted ??

Surf one out to us, Ed -  based on James' drum action, and that abbreviated chord pattern I posted. Let's play with this a bit, shall we...?

[manning]

now i see my replies..highly weird..lol..
could i have the otwalls drums on their own
so i can experiment ?? this coming week ??
i got orens geetar , could i have also otwalls geetar on its own also ??
that way if ok with you chaps i can boon around with the vocs n
try different things.//arrangements with both ??
will check back monday morning.
i have kept tuesday thru thursday this week free
for trying different things with the vocs.
(but got family stuff monday. but will try n squeeze in time then too.)

[kara]

... and the program tends to play behind the beat

Propably due to latency of the plugin...

and generate fills at odd places.

You could build the practice track with a 4 bar straight beat and then put in the fills after the lyrics are done ?

k

[Oren]

Probably due to latency of the plugin...

You could build the practice track with a 4 bar straight beat and then put in the fills after the lyrics are done ?

Exactly!
 All we need is the Jamstix track - then, we slice and dice to build a finished percussion track that is on the beat and co-ordinates with our arrangement.
Not so difficult...

[offthewall]

 
Too busy round here !!!!!

I'll try and get something to you within the next 24 (hopefully hours, not days) 

 
James

[offthewall]

  Phew ..... 

Here are a few selections.

To clarify one point. I don't think the timing issue is one of latency. There is a facility in JS, as part of the 'feel' section, called 'pocket'. You adjust a slider forward or back to achieve that before or after the beat feel. The default for quite a few of the drummer styles is before the beat.
I have attempted to set each of these examples as close as I can (quickly).

They are each recorded along with Oren's rhythm guitar track so I have included his initial count-in beats.

Oren ... can you give me (to save some time) your chord structure and I will see if I can make time for a bass part. 

 
James
first two drummers.