"Ghosting" Chuck Berry, McCartney, and the Beach Boys.

[Oren]

Here is a very ruff mix, from the tracks available plus my extra guitar track.
Wall of sound !! 

Yeah! Big, raucous, attitudinal... Did I mention BIG?...

[offthewall]

 
I think this will be my final offering for this one.

This is a chorus backup vocal.
I did two mono takes, panned them hard L&R, and rendered them to a stereo track for convenience. No processing so just do what you like with them .... try to make it sound like a crowd 

 
James

[manning]

Oren mate.
are you doing a mix for this ??
sorry for being out of it long...my wife needed the net for her work.

[offthewall]

 
Hey, Ed.

Oren mate.
are you doing a mix for this ??

 
I hope he is .... have you heard my 'mega-mix' ?
I think we need some of Oren's  subtlety 

 
James

[Oren]

Oren mate.
are you doing a mix for this ??
 

You bet I am! Taking the time to edit the tracks and line everything up into a coherent package - there is a lot of material , so it could be a while.

[manning]

Oren.
no prob mate. take yer time.
some comments on walls mix.
1. the drums generally i like the density.
2. i like the sound picture of the geetar at 4 secs. splang.
3. i like the "idea" of a likkle lead geetar playing along with
the vocs. but feel the notes should mimic the voc notes if we
are gonna do it that way. actualy i like the sound picture of that likkle geetar playing along with the vocs..but needs to mimic the voc notes for cohesion possibly.
its all sound picture stuff.
4. from 1 to 3 secs. that section i like the cohesion of it.
but would like to hear it again before the Am splang.
5. up to when verse1 starts i feel it should just be simple splangs...
with the burble slide thing happening. kiss concept.
6. love that burble at 33 secs. but mebe use it judiciously thru song ??
for example at 1min17secs not needed again ??
at 1min27 secs the downward chords i feel should come thru with not much other
geetar going on. people could just reinforce my notes useing the same ones for example.
7. at lead break one. i like the geetar lead that sorta follows
the demo. needs to  be brought up.
this area there are a lot of leads going on..lol. simplify ??
arrangement decisions ?? but i DO LIKE the tone/picture of the leads.
question is which one to use. ?? or a combo ??
there are also towards the end some sweet high tones.
8. at 2mins 22secs. once again i feel the lead notes should follow the voc notes.
one thing i hear in my silly head viz this song.
think of "sea tides". it would be nice to have things in the song and the dynamics
of the song flowing in and out like the tides. difficult to explain.
9. at 2min39secs..the burble slide..PERFECT !! YES.
after the lyric "old".  
10. the second lead break area later after "old" needs a really hooky lead.
i like the "tone" of the geetar. nice sound tho.
11. once again i feel the splangs starting at 3min21 secs should be allowed to ring out. without added geetar work. if one doesnt like my splang tone.
just replace but useing same notes ?? OR add to in unison ??//
reinforce.
12. right at end...3min26secs..i dont feel the burble slide should be there.
just let the vocs n instruments ring out "in malibu"..etc.
this is what i call a "critical song power area". ie..finishing the song off with
lots of POWER//WITH A BANG. so the punter listener goes wow hopefully.
anyhoo thats what i hear in my silly head.

feel free to disagree with any of my comments mates.
i DO agree with a "wall O' sound" in concept..but subtley.
an old LA engr once said to me .."hit the punter with one key thing at one time".
and i feel its important to bear this concept in mind in this song.
eg when a key burble slide is happening, not much else lead wise is.
or lets say when a main lead break occurs the focus should be the lead.
or for example when splangs occur...not much else. that kind of concept.
hoping i make some sense.
i really feel this could be a great collab. but its the attention to lots of
likkle dtails thats gonna make or break the final product.
god bless n HELL YES THIS IS FUN !!

[Oren]

Apologies for the slow progress on my end, folks... I've been working a lot lately .

I hope to have a solid bass and percussion mix  for us tomorrow, with Ed's vocal included for context. Once we agree on this foundation, it will be time to edit and arrange the guitars and backing vocals, and Ed can record his finished vocals for the final mix.

Bear with me, gents - I'm on the case...

[folderol]

Apologies for the slow progress on my end, folks... I've been working a lot lately .

I hope to have a solid bass and percussion mix  for us tomorrow, with Ed's vocal included for context. Once we agree on this foundation, it will be time to edit and arrange the guitars and backing vocals, and Ed can record his finished vocals for the final mix.

Bear with me, gents - I'm on the case...

For a moment I read that as:-
Beer with me gents - I've got a case.

OK I'll get my coat

I've been dipping in here from time to time having a nose around. I'll be one of the first to grab the final mix

[Oren]

For a moment I read that as:-
Beer with me gents - I've got a case.

That's what we call a "two-four" up north, Will - 24 bottles of beer in a box. A little slice of hoser heaven.
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Here is a track with bass and drums edited to give us a strong bottom end on which to build our song.
....suggestions for improvement will be grudgingly accepted... 
     (apologies to James for carving up his electric bass performance )

[kara]

Here is a track with bass and drums edited to give us a strong bottom end on which to build our song.
....suggestions for improvement will be grudgingly accepted...  
     (apologies to James for carving up his electric bass performance )

This sounds as a very solid foundation... you could build a castle on it  

k

[MarioD]

Apologies for the slow progress on my end, folks... I've been working a lot lately .

I hope to have a solid bass and percussion mix  for us tomorrow, with Ed's vocal included for context. Once we agree on this foundation, it will be time to edit and arrange the guitars and backing vocals, and Ed can record his finished vocals for the final mix.

Bear with me, gents - I'm on the case...

No apologies need my friend.

I'm going on vacation/holiday so I will not be around to give any input.  DO NOT wait for me.  I'll accept what ever you decide.  Heck, you always make better choices anyway!

[Oren]

Kara,
Schweet!
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Mario,
Enjoy your vacation, friend - we'll try not to mess up too dramatically whilst you're away

[folderol]

I want to know what that bass guitarist is on - I doubt it's legal

[offthewall]

I want to know what that bass guitarist is on - I doubt it's legal

These days it's either Highland Earl or High Commissioner, but it does vary on a seasonal basis.   

 
James

[manning]

Oren mate.
i listened to malibu bottom.
its very difficult for me to say.
without hearing the rhythm geetars also.
i'm terribly sorry.
as an alternative drum pattern in my mind...
if we take 4 beats in a bar.
within the 4 beats i  hear something like this.
for each beat.. b b b b
so 16 b's in a bar. same tempo as you have mate.
just an alternative idea to try mebe ??
its terribly difficult to describe ,
other than to say sorta fast flowing drum beat within your existing tempo.
god bless. ed.
mario..have a very nice time mate.
ps..i'm kinda partial to rickards red beer made
in canada. but being a limey i'm a huge tea drinker.
best tea in the world is canadian red rose imho.
beats all the brit teas i grew up on imho.