"Ghosting" Chuck Berry, McCartney, and the Beach Boys.

[Oren]

if we take 4 beats in a bar.
within the 4 beats i  hear something like this.
for each beat.. b b b b
so 16 b's in a bar. same tempo as you have mate.

OK, so I've increased the volume of the 16th note drum hits, then mixed in Ed's rhythm guitar so we can hear the bass and drums in context.

Feast your ears...

[manning]

Oren.
i think possibly we need more 16th notes n 8th notes mate possibly.
your bpm is correct , ...but i feel the drums need more "motion"
a la showing the power of the sea.
heres a typical surfer song..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UofdWQG346k&feature=related
now i'm not saying that speed mate.
but the pattern has the "motion" of the tides which i think they were
trying to convey on the song.
mebe try kik on 1 ,2,3,4 beats for pinning it down.
snare on 2 n 4 and alternating with snare syncopations within
the bar, kik snare snare kik, with mebe a tom plus hi hat on the 16th
beats for motion.

one part i really liked was the kick off to the song..
3 secs to just before the first voc verse starts.
it has this "gearing up" or revving up facet to it. nice.
i wouldnt change that. then i would suggest in the verses
switching more to the 16th beat approach perhaps. ??
i hear this da da da da da da da da da da da da sorta motion.
i hear this bloke sorta on say cabasa or something
playing with his hands the 16th or mebe 8th note rhythm
within the bar of 4 beats.
many apologies if i'm not communicating right.
god bless.

[Oren]

Ok, Ed - got you about the drums. I'll take a run at them tomorrow, and make you proud.

Now, give me some feed back on the arrangement of the electric bass, willya..?

[manning]

oren mate.
generally i like the bass..
but in  particular the downward part at
1min22 secs etc. and other downward sections in the song.
yep..generally i think the bass trak is there.
there are possibly some parts where the bass could play mebe more notes .
reinforcing the speedy motion aspect..
d d d d . <8 to a bar ?? on one note.
but such leave till possibly other instrumentation is done ??
honestly mate big kudos for your effort on this.
respect. 
god bless.

[kara]

I get the impression that you guys are building the next world hit 
Every note in the song will be discussed

Kudoz guys, a great collaboration effort 

The result will be up to par

k
 

[manning]

update..tooth out...aarrgghh !
just so you good chaps know.
just got back from emerge dental stuff . takeing a tooth out.
no biggie..i'm talking like an idiot with cotton in me mouth..lol.
but dentist said  i prolly shouldnt do vocs for a couple of days.
theres gotta be be a song there .."toothless in...fill in the blanks"..lol.
feelin a bit groggy so gonna lie down.

[kara]

update..tooth out...aarrgghh !
just so you good chaps know.
just got back from emerge dental stuff . takeing a tooth out.
no biggie..i'm talking like an idiot with cotton in me mouth..lol.
but dentist said  i prolly shouldnt do vocs for a couple of days.
theres gotta be be a song there .."toothless in...fill in the blanks"..lol.
feelin a bit groggy so gonna lie down.

ooch get well soon....

k

[Oren]

...theres gotta be be a song there .."toothless in...fill in the blanks"..lol...

There's a song in every experience, mi amigo. If it's a bad experience, write a country song... or maybe some blooze...

Take this opportunity to spoil yourself - they don't come along every day!

[folderol]

2:30 I went to the dentist.
2:30 I'm strong-willed but yet,
2:30 I went to the dentist.
Tooth hurty I'll never forget

[manning]

lol.
well starting to feel better mates.
wifey banned me to bed..lol.
Oren.
just in case you need it mate..
i got new isp bandwidth month started.
so heres my original drum clik trak.
an old trik is to put such behind the main drums for density.
sometimes workie, sometimes not.
god bless.
ps..
here ya go..lol.
tooth lyrics.
went to the dentist , he took it out.
biggest blinkin tooth, bigger'n a sprout.
now me bird, she's kinda miffed,
cos she dont get no blinkin kiss.
said she'd get a toy if i dont recover,
so i went running home cryin to me "muvver".

[Oren]

Got yer drum track, Ed!

Rather than mix it with the two existing percussion tracks, I programmed Hydrogen to kick in another bass drum, tuned slightly different than the other, and added some extra 16th note hits - as if the drummer had two kick drums. This gives extra "movement", while keeping things punchy and articulate.

Are we there yet..?

[kara]

This is a darn good drumtrack, sounds live and a solid foundation for the song.
Has to be with a drummer who has 3 feet 

k

[manning]

Oren.
yep mate . good on ya mate.
much much better.
like the ending also.

god bless.
ed.

[folderol]

Sounding more like a 60s rock group every time

[Oren]

Schweet!

I'll have a go at the guitar tracks from Mario and James next...