"Ghosting" Chuck Berry, McCartney, and the Beach Boys.

[kara]

Something is bothering me with this song, I couldn't lay my finger on it until now but found it this morning !
ok, we have 2 guitar players in this band yes ?

Now, based on live playing for years in several bands, i just can't imagine that with a song like that none of them would grab the opportunity to solo somewhere in the song ! This is realy missing IMHO...


k
   

[Oren]

Some guitar action, like from Chuck Berry or the Ventures, would give added interest and help promote the "beach party" mood.

I'm hoping Mario can pull that off , ...but if necessary, I can approximate Mario's tone and attempt some 1960's style picking...

[manning]

Oren. n chaps.
1..re discrepencies..
please tell me which time points you feel need fixin up.
ie x mins yy secs sorta idea.
n i'll fix em up till happy.
just a tad confoosed whats needed.
dam internet...lol..its easier if we are
all workin together in same location..lol.
also you have the original choruses on their own if i remember ??
in the demo ?? did you like em better ??
2. yeh hay fever n pollen killing me right now.
had  fever this time of year from when i was a kidlet.
3. re karas points bout guitars.
in the original demo i posted i left 2 spaces for lead guitar n
just pumped in a place holder in one lead break.
i personally hear the organ in rhythm support..
just in the backing sorta idea ??
with occasional moves of flourishers to the front ??
but mainly a geetar song.
4. chaps i wont be able to do much this weekend.
i might be able to squeeze in an hour or so ...
once i get the answer to point 1.
next week ive kept 3 complete days free.
tues/wed/thurs. 

god bless.
ed.,

[Oren]

please tell me which time points you feel need fixin up.
ie x mins yy secs sorta idea.
n i'll fix em up till happy.
just a tad confoosed whats needed.
dam internet...lol..its easier if we are
all workin together in same location..lol.
also you have the original choruses on their own if i remember ??
in the demo ?? did you like em better ??

Ed,

The locations at which your double-tracking is a tad loose (therefore sounding out of tune rather than thick and chorused), based in your mp3- "malvocarr":
42sec. to 45sec.
1min.11 sec. to 1min.13sec.
2min.50sec. to 2min.52sec.
3min.40sec. to 3min.41sec.

Your original performance was right on for the song; if the original track is going to be superior (in that it was performed before hay fever season) let's go with it - your call, oh silver throated one...

I'm going to take some time off. now, and apply myself to the spring season Review song. Summer starts on June 21st, and I'll need the next 3 or 4 weeks to record a song that's been brewing for a month or more.
Then, back to Malibu...

[manning]

Oren.
ok..mate gotcha.
will make changes this week mate.
n see if ya like em..
otherwise we can use my original traks
which i'll upload.
all the best.
ps..what is review song ??

[Oren]

ps..what is review song ??

http://www.kara-moon.com/forum/index.php?board=72.0

[manning]

Oren.
here is first chorus..small mp3 attached.
i did a bit of editing work on mate.
i also checked the voc notes were in tune
with a tuner plug in mate.


does this now work for you ??
if not..please tell me ..
is it alignment ?? or the general voc texture ??
or do you want me to sing it HARDER ??
rather than softer ??

i just wanna get it right.

god bless.
\ed

[manning]

ok..
tell me what you think folks
of the choruses now.
(full song attached.)
ive reinforced n checked with tuning software etc.
i cant do much more without critical feedback
cos i'm too close to it.

re the choruses.
"in malibu".
what i hear is other voices singin the choruses
either side of the stereo image with me.

if you can get back to me with critique cos i got wed n thurs
free this week.

god bless.
ed.

[Oren]

Ducky, Ed! Everything squared away - all sins forgiven 
You have cemented your position as Kara-Moon's number one vocalist - post those tracks at your leisure - we're in the tall grass, now!

[manning]

Oren/folks.
re vocals.
well my problem, like i suspect many folks here..
is family commitments.
and finding "me time" so i can quietly
get things the way i want em.
as an aside my wife is absolutely wonderfull..
never hassles me.
but us both have been thru a heavy era of
dealing with family n medical stuff i wont bore you with.
which is now abateing.
so what ive done is allocate "me time"..tues/wed/thurs
each week for songs, n family stuff/commitments
other days.
i find i work very well on those 3 days with
peace and solitude so i can concentrate.
and as you know..songs are work n require
lots of concentration n trying things.
but heck as my dear wife says..i love doing songs.

i'll mention something from my heart also.
and its kinda ironic bout life.
when i was a nipper in the uk, had a great voice..
but never could afford to record in uk studios.
but now i'm old, n its inexpensive to record...
my darn upper vocal registers i have to work at more
cos of age.
this is why i need feedback..even if it slams me.
cos its good in a way n makes me work harder.
my attitude is i'll do my darndest on a song..
but i cant win em all.
i sing on lots of songs, some turn out well ,
others not.
its weird actually. sometimes i get what i call
"magic days"..lol...everything just goes right,
n other days not so. just comes with the gig of doing vocs.

lol..prolly as i age further and i loose more upper register
i'll have to sing more a leonard cohen style.
down lower. i hate gettin old..lol.

re malibu.
todays wednesday. i would still like today n tomorrow
to see if i can improve the vocs further.
coupla things bug me.
so i'll post vocs late thursday this week if thats ok.

god bless. 

[manning]

ok...heres a short fun test attached..
AND I DONT KNOW IF IT WORKS.
thus need feedback.
femme singers at end of song.

i used a harmoniser to create femme voices.
blinkin tricky stuff to get right.  
we all know the probs with such..robotic etc.
and ideally instead proper female back up singers are needed.
we need female singers on this forum...lol.
anyhoo gimme yer comments.
cos this type of audio engineering is blinkin tough.
sometimes one can fudge femme singers...but often not.
depends on the song.

now i'm gonna go work on a couple of lead
voc phrases that bug me.
should be done by end of tomorrow.

[kara]

I'll ask the lady next week if she can sing a couple of 'Malibus'

k

[manning]

Oren/folks.
heres the malibu vocs on their own with line up at front.
(delete line up in your daw.).
DRY/NO FX. (ogg)
note..as i took off all fx n level automation..
if a chorus for example seems too high..
cut around it in your daw and reduce its level etc.
god bless n tell moi how ya get on.
youll need to add yer own fx n mix technique.

Kara..(what a nice name !!..)
yes , in the choruses it would be nice to have not only
some femme singing but also crowd singing
as suggested earlier.

[Oren]

heres the malibu vocs on their own with line up at front.
(delete line up in your daw.).
DRY/NO FX. (ogg)
 

...give me a few days... Up to my keester in the Spring Review entry, but things are going well.

[manning]

Oren.
take yer time mate.
no rush. dont wear yerself out mate.
also if you or other folks feel more vocal work
is needed..i'll be happy to oblige.
but i would prefer to do so once more
instrumentation is on the song.
cos i very much key my vocal energy off the sound picture etc etc.
i tend to do better this way with my  vocs.
and find it more difficult when things are sparse.
god bless.