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Somebody suggested to start this one  ;D
A couple of you know what this is all about.

So I'll start to pay a beer here   8)

OK, you're making me curious !...

I'm home!!!.....slide that brew my way Rony and lets commence with the meaningless chatter, glug glug aww!!

let me see where did we leave off, I think we were wondering whether rich people eat chicken, or was it , does caviar taste like chicken? 

Allways nice to have a nice cold beer, which brings me a tought that we should invite kwak here....

Caviar, hmm... IMHO just eggs nothing special. Propably just because I can't afford it  :o :-[

cheers everybody,

... now where's my tequila? ;D

Tequila ??, o boy, you know that it is only 11.00 in the morning here :)
ok, one tequila comming up for the Mister :D

you can't handle the truth...hah, tequila is a womans drink, in Mexico the gals drink tequila while doing laundry

one thing I must say and I'll do it here, if your track isn't a direct link or at least streams, I proly won't bother, the auditorium changed to attachments that wouldn't stream and it was the end for me.
I know its a bandwidth thing and seems to be the same here, I'll hangout and play links or streams, thats it..

I'm sure no one gives a rat, but just in case ya wonder why I'm not listening to your track....myself I won't make somebody download onto their drive just to have a listen, I think its uncool...if you like the thing you can always right click it and download anyway.

cheerz...

Heu, no it's not the same here, you can direct upload to the forum. So, no excuse  ;D or did I misunderstand something ?
Or do you mean that uploaded files don't stream ?
If that's it , I'm sure Moon can solve this


Kara

I think Ed means that at the old Auditorium you sometimes had to download first in order to be able to listen to the tracks. In most cases the link will start playing immediately. In my case with the Windows Media pl;ayer. I haven't had to download any tracks here yet though.

Oh yeah I'll have a beer if you don't mind.

Nice to be home  ::)

Hey Ed...we need that strong Canadian beer for this thread!

Hey Martin, so who's the favorite this weekend?

Hey Kara, found any new good piano samples lately? Martin and I bought Truepianos. But, I've bought a bunch more pianos.

Hey Zoey, do I need an LP Classic (black) or Studio (classic white). Think I'm gonna order tommorrow!!  Well Martin, maybe you have a thought here too??  Ok here is a real question I've been wondering....ebony vx. rosewood fretboard. One better than the other or it doesn't matter?

Black Ice Supreme...8%...comes in 1.5 litre bottles, for that nite when your just having 1

Rich people do not eat chicken!!

The eat ostriches...

Imported ostriches...

Hmm that streaming thing..I thought it was just me...

Windows media player has decided that it don't like my sound card anyway and its set up to play streaming stuff so I've bee just downloading mostly. Feckin Microsoft...

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BTW I'm still not drinking Beer BUT I am nutz so I feel at home...

yaa, don't want to eat any of that local shit

btw if you have mp9 you've got the m3u codec, problem is the file itself has to end with mp3 or m3u to be streamed, I checked the file in ambient and its not and wouldn't stream

Hmm... we need a barman here  ;D or a barwoman (even better)  :P

ok for starters, the streaming thing is not clear for me, but perhaps it will be clear for moon. Do we need to change anything ?

Ostriches? no way, rich people eat oysters with champagne  ;D

For pianos, I've come to a conclusion. If you need a real piano sound you'll have to play a real piano (as if we didn't know that...  ::) ) Now when using a piano in a mix, as most of us do, you need a piano sound that is easy to EQ in the mix. It doesn't make any sense to use $$$$$ piano vsti and then eq 80% out because it clashes with the rest of the mix.
Another criteria is also using tools that you really know. Getting older, I just hate to, in the middle of the creation of a song, wasting time fiddling with a Vsti because I don't get the sound that I want. Seriously, sometimes after doing this, when I finally achieved my goal, I forgot what I wanted to do in the first place  ::) ;D
I've decided to clean up my vsti directory and use only stuff that I know that I need and that I really need.
As for piano, I've purchased GPO used from somebody in Australia, so I got it fairly cheap. I'm pretty happy with the piano in it and use it now as principle vsti. Some other sounds are stunning, the string sections are really good and some windinstruments are stunning. Only backdraw is that you really have to learn it, because it has some specific controls which are not standard.

And now I'll a cofee please  :P

There been so many updates and releases on microsoft webbrowser that it isn't clear for me when the streaming works or not. As far I can tell, it is a combination of what version and updates of browser you use, what version and updates of media player you use(?) and what bitrate the mp3 has. So best way to solve the problem is to check these versions with somebody where it does work.

I can't do anything for the songs that are hosted elsewhere, but if you find a song on kara-moon that doesn't work I'll be happy to have a look at it.

Can I have my Tequila now please...euh... I mean... Can I get my beer now ?  ;D

Hi Fred. Haven't really followed pre-season testing. So I haven't a clue. Gonna see if I can dig up some information. I'm still rooting for Kimi. The Ferarri should be more reliable than what he was used to at Mclaren.


I'm no expert on this. There's pros and cons for both. Ebony is harder but less oily than rosewood. There's a difference in sound and that should probably be decisive in your choice. My Hagstrom has a resinator fretboard. I had never heard of it before. In the add it says: "The resinator fretboard offers an articulate sound of high-quality ebony but with more consistency and durability". For what it's worth. All I can say is the damn thing plays like a charm.

Cheers

Thanks, Martin!

It would be a lot easier to buy a guitar if I was more experienced (knew everything to look for) and played better. You know what they say about a fool and his money, but I guess that's never stopped me before ;)   I probably just need a little bit of luck! 

most important Fred, make sure the neck is straight, look down from the machines level with both edges, the neck and the strings should be parrallel,
give the machines a twist to, they should be smooth,
check the intonation and press the strings down up in the high range without an amp on to check for buzzing,

the sound is mostly a personal thing, different pickups will effect that to.. these other things are more important

Thanks Ed. Good tips! Hope I get it right! Still deciding between two models; classic and studio. The big difference is in the pickups; ceramic vs. alnico (or something like that), and then just some cosmetic differences (oh yeah, and the studio is $700 cheaper ;))

Frd save yer money! Playing guitar hurts ;)

Also it's hard...

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Yes very hard, I tried it a couple of times
and failed...

Kara

TBH I can't even handle tequila these days  ;)
Back then I could drink a bottle and then drive home (yeah I know, I was foolish).
Regarding "gals drinking tequila while doing laundry in Mexico", in my father's village they used to give poppy-soup to babies to put them to sleep. Now beat that ;D

In the south of France they drink something called 'Tequilla frappé'
It is a mixture of tequilla and tonic.
To drink it you have to cover your glass, hit in on the counter and drink it immediatly, dagnerous mixture  :o

Kara

In France, they know a lot about food and wine, but that's were their knowedge of drinks seems to end  :D

hey, that's how I started about 20 years ago. Thanx for the memories ;)

 ;D me too but I kept it to a ONE time experience

No insider news on the upcomming F1 ?
Allonzo on Mercedes
New pilots for Ferarri
And Renault.... ? Last year in F1 it seems ?

Could be interesting

Kara

Rony, that's not just a South of France phenomenon  ;) 

Fred has gone to the darkside....goderator

no soup for you

I hear ya Ed ::)  Hope he is a wise and just goderator we will. That this position of power and authority goes to his head and the power of the dark side consumes him will not.

Hi all,

Am I the only female here?

You can all start by buying me a drink ;D

Neleke

oh hey, drinks are always on the house for ladies

but if ya don't want any special treatment, Fred's buyin...hes the one with the big promotion

I guess its only fair that I buy. Well I'm at it, you can add one to the tab for getting that gig at the Canadian Comedy Club. Congrats, btw!!

And welcome Neleke!!!  Send me the tab  ;)

Hey Neleke

how ya doin?


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Hello Neleke & Welcome here,

Now, if everybody buys here a drink she will be very drunk  ;D

I was gonna post this in the Hardware section, but there is no "new post" option there currently.

So its here...LP Studio. Classic white with nickel.  Made a deal with the local GC for the lowest price I found on the net and no tax.

I wasn't sure if it would have an ebony or rosewood board as the the manufacturer info said ebony, but the corresponding picture was clearly rosewood. Well, it turns out its Ebony. Sans all the playing/bending important stuff, It works very well aesthetically. Very pretty guitar. I was extremely tempted to bring it straight home and play with it, but I stuck to the original plan, and took it straight to Lucifer (luthier). He said its pretty good overall, but definitely needs some adjustment. $64.95, but at this point 7 to 10 days seems the real price.

Then lucifer threw me a curve..."you know we set these up specifically to the size of the strings you use". "So what do you want us to put on here"? Oh crap, I don't know. Got any magic ones? The ones on here now are just as lousy as the ones I played on 20 years ago ::)  So, some back and forth, and ended up with Ernie's Balls size 10. I guess some like 11's. But this guy said that for this guitar, 10's were the popular choice.

You know, its gotta be a lot like riding a bicycle, cause I seem to be at the same lousy playing ability I was 20 years ago and haven't played hardly at all during that time. Lessons start Monday....gotta learn proper technique so I can begin teaching my son....gave him the Mexican made Strat.

Anyway, I gotta say I'm pretty happy! Well, except for the wait.

Fred

Thinner strings are easier to play...


Not that I can play to well...


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that sounds great Fred, guitars are magical things when ya get a nice one
unreal prices to me though, somehow I'd pay $200, cause I live in an igloo I guess
anyway I think I got 11's on mine, flat wound
too bad you couldn't see a tech guy string it, I have a friend that does it for me sometimes, I never really mastered the art of re-stringin a guitar,


btw theres a huge snowstorm coming through right now, its big!!! I've had 5ft of snow on my lawn for 2 months....its getting a bit on now

Fred on guitar

 

Hi Fred  You sly devil. I see you've made some last minute changes to your team. Had a good score with Davidson and BMW Sauber. Massa cost me some valuable points. Kimi didn't let me down though.

Congrats on the new guitar. Were talking genuine Gibson here?

I haven't been idle either. Bought a twelve string acoustic on the Dutch equivalent of Ebay yesterday  Gonna pick it up tomorrow morning. It's about an hours drive from my home. And guess what; it's another Hagstrom but this time no reissue but the real deal from 1977. These guitars are rated highly for their sound and durability. Been doing some research on Hagstrom guitars ever since I bought the Super Swede. Read about the twelve string Hagstrom B120 and to my surprise, using the search engine, there was one for sale yesterday. Couldn't let it pass me by.

Also congrats on your moderator job, Fred  How much did you bribe Kara for ;D

That's it for now . Have a good race.

You know, I may never be any good, but I have motivation at the moment. So what the hell, right?

Yeah you know, it costs you 10% to change anything, so I really had my doubts after I did it. But maybe it will work out in the end? How did you get Kimi and Massa? Your not that rich ;) ;D

Yeah, I probably mentioned before that I had bought a brand new LP custom when I was a kid (1976) and stupidly sold it. So mainly, just wanted another real LP. The studio is not the top of the heap though. Pretty much a Standard without the binding, so it costs less.

That 12-string sounds awesome. I'll bet she's a real treasure!!!!  I'm not really a guitar player, but just the same, I feel the need for quality equipment. Sounds like you did it right here  ;D

I'll have to wait for tomorrow and see if it's really quality equipment.  ;D

I don't have Kimi and Massa as drivers.  But I do have Ferrari as an engine. So both drivers supply points for that part.
Which reminds me I still have to send you the rest of the rules  ;D

Hey Martin, I don't think it went so well for me. I guess Coulthard and Wurz didn't know they were teammates ::)  lol

Here are the results Fred. 

Fred: points 76 Ranking 7237;    Martin: points 117 ranking 3389;   
Boyd: points 131 ranking 2420.

Looks like we got beat by a thirteen year old, Fred.

You can check the details of the points at the website (click on "details")
Which will give you some insight in how the points are earned.

To change your team you have to wait until Wednesday.

could singing be your next challenge Fred

You first  ;)     Like the Bermuda Triangle, Ed. One place I won't go  ;D

Well least you did a lot better than I, Martin! You could always put Boyd on restriction for a week and let us catch up ;D   131, hmmm, that's a pretty good score, actually, with 175 the top score. Hopefully he won't tease you too much  ::)

*rubs sleep from eyes*

  Wow, everything is different now...

 ;D

Hey VG, Man. Where have you been. Fred and I were kinda worried.

Yeah, thought I scared you away for good ;)  ;D  Glad your here! Hope your fine!

sorry guys, things werent so good for a while. PM sent. If I did it right that is.  I'm glad that this place exists.

Hi Greco

I thought some jlous boyfriend off'ed ya or something...

I need to send you a copy of the new CD see as yer on it is your addy the same?


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You have no idea how close that was to being true this winter.

Wow, I didnt expect you to use that song on your album. Thats awesome! :)

Did not receive any PM, VG. You can mail me otherwise.

Ok, dont know what happened, but will try again

Here, even the poor people eat oysters  ;D

Hi Guys
I'm glad 'Beer & Nuts' still exists here  8)

Cheers

Yeah, although perhaps we should rename the section to "Beer, Nuts & ... oysters"  :D

By the way, the're a lot of nice people in the cafe tonight. I'm giving a round. Anyone an oyster ?

With a glass of white wine of course ! :D

Sounds fine, as long as you put the oyster under the grill first so it's dead before we eat it  ;)  :D

no way, you have to eat'em raw. It's the only way ;)

aaah at least one person here with a bit of culture  :o 8)
thanks VG

well, I dont know about culture. That might be giving me too much credit, but thats the way i like them best. Preferable straight after you've pulled them from the intercoastal. YUM.  With clams though I tend to steam them right there on the shore and add a little lemon juice or hot sauce if I'm felling, well, saucy.:)

I may have jinxed myself, free mic....all I gotta do is sing,

beer me while I ponder this bet

Your on! Not a fair bet though, as you can probably fart in tune better than I can sing ::)

btw, started guitar lessons yesterday.....scales....ugh  :P

my bestess mic went dead, I was moanin I had to buy a new one, one of the boys offered me a nice AT mic for free if I write a song and sing to it....friggin guys, we're still like kids...
but I've agreed...and for a box of beer on top I told them I'd do the guitars to..I'm knee deep now but I tell ya...I've done way sillier things in my life for a freebee....hah

ya scales, argh...but after while you'll get to see the B C semi like on the keys and it'll come easy....its different chording and changes that trouble me, and of course my big fat construction fingers...more hah

look forward to your debut lead solo....cheerz....

can I have a free Strat Ed if I play a few licks? ;D

Re oysters: VG got it right, that's the proper way
Re F1: Renault fan since many years but this year is not a good one for my fav team :-[

EDIT @FredS:sorry for not replying to your guitar related questions but I think MartinE took care of them (and judging by his sound Martin knows what's he's talking about). If you want my 0.02$ I like maple necks better than rosewood (not sure if it applies to your case). I think it gives more 'twang'. Could be less forgiving for a beginner though.

Not sure yet, wait & see....
from another renault fan :)

I wish you're right but I doubt it. No matter how much I like Jiancarlo as a person I think he's not in the same league as Fernando or Kimi. And the new driver is an unknown quantity for now (Flavio was mad at him after the Australian GP finish)

Flavio said Heikki Kovalainen had screwed up big time. Which is an unusual thing for a teamboss to say in public. So he must have been quite disappointed. With Flavio you can expect anything  ;D

By the way you guys all eating oysters here. Not particularly my favourite dish. But you know the Dutch; we eat raw herring.  ;)

I love 'Maatjes' !

Whew! I misunderstood, but I get it now! Luckily, we've all been spared my singing ;)   Good luck with that....hope we get to hear it  ;D


 

A friend of mine here is convinced that Kimi is absolutely going to run away with the title this year. And, how about Hamilton? Think he has a future in F1?  ;)

Don't think anyone understands what you mean by that, Rony  ;D

o yes  ;D
You do, Moon does, Max el Belga does,Neleke does,...
Just a couple I know for sure they understand, so be carefull what you say here in Dutch  :o ;D

Is there another hidden meaning to the word besides young, unspawned, herring, eaten raw?

Was wondering the same thing. Not my favorite dish, but I grew up with next door neighbors that were from the Netherlands so I've had it a few times.

Nothing behind this, only that 'Maatjes' is a typical Dutch word

No hidden meaning there guys. I didn't think you lot would know what it meant. My mistake I guess.

No, not really, I looked it up  :D  I'm getting used to those Dutch words  ;D  lol

You're a cheat, Fred  ;D

Nice maatjes... with some uitjes... hmmm! :D

and don't forget the pindasaus....I hear its great on fries...yuk!!!

Pindasaus on fries, on sate babi... Ok, I'm getting hungry now... :D

strange how dutch cullinary habits are know in the world  :)

Everyone seems to be into "maatjes" Strange  ::)




Well that's what you get when you colonize countries like Indonesia .... ;D

hehehehe  ;D Alonzo did it again  :P

Who said here it would be a Ferarri season this year  :o ;D

Kara

Yes, but what about that Hamilton ? what a surprise !  :o Someone here said he's a natural. and it really is ...

Cheers

I didn't expect Alonzo to dominate like he did! Massa didn't have a very good race at all....starting at the line and for the rest of the race.

I never understood why Massa was deemed to be a favourite. He has never convinced me as a being a top driver. His attempt to overtake Hamilton in one of the first laps was a joke.

Must say Alonso and Mercedes were a lot stronger than I expected. Hamilton is a revelation.
In his outlap he said to his engineer Yeah it was a good race but next time I wanna win.  :o

The only reason I can think of is the reported "tutoring" from Schumacher.

That had to be embarrasing because it did look bad, especially against a rookie. Did you catch Hamilton's comment in the interviews about "tricking" him and that he apologizes? Wasn't quite sure how to take that...almost sounded a bit arrogant, again, especially for a rookie. Don't ya just love F1  ;D

aww, you guys and your tricked out go-carts...  :P

Boys & toys :)

Have a beer VG........and keep drinking.   ;D

Dont mind if i do.  ;D

it's qualifying time....
any bet?

WHAT? Forgot about it and I'm at the office working :'(

Hmm... batle between Ferarri & Mercedes ?

Oh yeah, these are the faster cars, atm, but I think it'll be a battle beetween the 4 drivers
A very exciting one !  ;)

Yep and it seems that the wind there will be an important factor

YES !!! Party here  ;D
Mercedes on top and what a race of Hammilton  8)


A cool beer here for me  8)

A hard race. Heidfeld push back Alonso finishing 4th.
We have Alonso, Hamilton and Raikkonen on top with 22 pts.
Next one will be in spain in May

Cheers

F1 thoughts:

I hear that next year they will be doing away with tracktion control. I say its about time....its a crutch IMO. The more the race is in the hands of the drivers, the better I like it. So, I'm looking forward to that.

Seems we're going to have quite a showdown this year. No one's got in the bag. Should be fun!

What the heck has happened to Renaul! Lucky for Alonzo. If he happens to win this year (back to back)  but with a different team, he'll have instant historical credibility.

 

I agree Fred, it'll be an improvement for the race value, and maybe it'll be more spectacular

Cheers

Yeah never understood why they allowed it in the first place.

Giving the pilots more control will certainly make the races more interesting.
It will shift the focus back to talent and a bit away from technology.

Hey I think I'll have fun watching MotoGp bikes from Turkye...

Cheers  ;D

Hi there,
browsing sports news I see the long awaited F1-circus come back to Barcelona...
good news, I hope for an exciting duel...  :)
Bad news, maybe I'm going to be away from home... :(

Have a beer !

Cheers

Yep it's comming back  8)

And a beer for you

Massa & Alonzo on the first line for tomorrow
We gonna have some fun watching this  8)

Yeah I just read the results too. Forgot to watch the qualification. Well I was to busy playing football myself. Can't do everything, can you?
I'll be watching the race tomorrow though.

ok, my bet goes to Alonso as usual  :D

hm expected winner I guess, Massa did a great job
But again Hammilton, that guy really has it !  8)

Yeah, expected lots of fun, but it turned rather banal after the first few corners. Maybe the next round will be a little more exciting. Seems the knockout qualifying is usually more exciting than the race. I like that format!

Yeah, I agree, I hope there'll be more thrill in the future races, after all there's more balance this year...

There are surprises in the Montecarlo F1 qualyfing grid...
Alonso in pole position followed by Hamilton (he had traffic). Massa is 3rd and Raikkonen went out.

Yeah, I know... this is a weird track... we'll see the race...

Cheers

One of the most beautifull races of the season imho.
No, not because it's in France  ;D but because it is in the city and not on a circuit.
And, perhaps yes...., because it is the only one that I ever saw for real. Man, you should hear those engines when they pass between those buildings.

I hope Hamilton doesn't break his car like he did during  the testruns.

Great performance of Mercedes of course, taking first and second place, but (allso important) allmost 1 minute before the 3°.
What a shame Hammilton had interdiction to fight his team mate.
Understandable from the team direction point of view, but a shame for the spectacle.

Yeah, a good race after all
I enjoyed it with my friends.... :D

Cheers

Hey guys! How about that 9th place finish by American Scott Speed...up 9 spots from qualifying!! ;D

Anyone watching the Indianapolis 500 today, or is it past its prime in countries outside US? Well its somewhat past its prime here as well...no longer the golden years with Mears, Andretti, Al Unser and the like. The split in the open wheel leagues here have really hurt the race (and US open wheel racing in general). But, I watch anyway for tradition's sake. 

SInce I don't have a satelite receiver anymore, i can't look Indianapolis anymore. A real shame, much more fun than F1.

Yeah, Indianapolis, the first images are coming right now, well... the fact is we don't really know the drivers. It seems strange here you have women in the race, but we'll get used to it  :)
I've been in places (in the midwest) where they watch and talk about NASCAR all the time and they doesn't care about open wheel. I think you're right for both reasons: league split and drivers quality or fame

Cheers

Hey LR! I'm a huge nascar fan! Well, I love racing of all kinds. Its like anything else I suppose, once you understand the strategies involved, its more enjoyable. To some, its just turning left all the time ;D  But, no one beats Formula 1 for the off-track drama!!!

Hey Fred I must thank you for pointing me on the indy race, I wasn't aware of it, but it was fun watching it.
We enjoyed it  ;D

Cheers

LOL
 ;D

I like all kind of motorsports, motorbikes included (Superbikes, and MotoGp which is mainly a european thing, but There's also an interesting race in Laguna seca).

Cheers

Laguna Seca is a great track. Not far from here. They hold several good races each year. Gotta love anything with a motor negotiating the famous corkscrew ;D  Also close by is Sears Point...not sure what they're calling it these days. NASCAR runs there each year...one of only two tracks where they turn right occasionally  ;)

We only saw a very short resume of the Indy race here in France.
Bad weather and a couple of crashes.
And a Scotman who won... normal of course in bad weather  ;D

While I'm waiting on my beer I want to adderss the streaming thing.

Using WMP10
At most sites, including my own, if I click an mp3 file that is posted on the internet my computer will open windows mediaplayer and the song will start playing after a couple seconds *while it is downloading*.This is called streaming. If I click on an mp3 file on this site the whole song has to download before wmp will open and play it.

..and just so Ed knows- even when it does stream correctly from other sites it gets put on your hard drive as a tmp file. That is if it's an mp3. An mpu, I believe, doesn't and just plays from the site. So that is no excuse to not listen here!  The only thing here is that you have to wait for the whole song to load. It still gets loaded as a temp file and goes away when you delete your temp internet files periodically.The server is quick here and downloading doesn't take long, so I believe it's something with the way the site is set up.
 If the thread links actually led *directly* to the mp3 that was uploaded WMP should be able to stream it.  I didn't do anything special at my site to make it happen, I think it's more of a situation where whoever set the site up did something to cause it to not happen.  And I'm sure there are others like ED who don't listen to songs from here because of it. 'Instant Gratification'  society and all..

One beer for rharv please  ;D

Since this is a question that comes back from time to time, I made a separate post to answer this : http://www.kara-moon.com/forum/index.php?topic=617.0

And now a beer for me too please  ;D

so what about WRC? any fans round here?
We had the Acropolis Rally here in Greece for the last few days but I was so busy I couldn't go to a single stage. And the special-stage was about 15 mins from where I live :'(

Well, of course we have the best car and the best pilot here in France :))

+1 but he didn't win. I think Acropolis and Loeb don't like each other ;)

Used to get the races on "Speed TV" here in the states, so used to enjoy them and follow them. Even played the WRC game on PS2 a little. But, a couple years ago speedtv got taken over by NASCAR, so have lost touch.

I always thought that they might be the best drivers in all of motorsports.

I like car-rallies, but there's not much Tv coverage. It's hard to follow the race.
I agree it's very spectacular and there are many good drivers there

Cheers

Yeah, driving with 180KM/h on slippery gravel on the edge of the cliff requires some serious skills and definitely big balls ;D

Yep and sometimes it is quit spectacular to see it go wrong  ;D

Well, looks like they saved up all the excitement and put it in one race! How about Sato passing Alonzo at the end of the race?  :o  Wurz on the podium! Massa parked in the garage!  Fun race to watch.

Is Kimi officially now a slacker?

Hamilton the new star...taking over for the departed Schumacher.

One hel of a race. This wasn't Formula 1, it looked like crazy cars!!

Sato passing Alonso. My son and I were laughing our heads off.
Ferrari seem to be struggling though. Hope Kubica is ok though. That was some crash.

And I didn't see it  >:(  ::)
It's parlement elections here in France, so they didn't even show it on television
 :o > :(

Yes indeed ! I'm glad for Hamilton, I like him more than Alonso
Some thrill for Kubica, but he seems ok

Cheers

please stop  :'(
I 've been working till late at night yesterday so I didn't watch it :'(

PS I heard that Kubica has only broke a bone

This is the first or second time I read this topic, though there are so many replies!
Just was curious to see what are you guys talking about.... ;D

I was watching this race, till they carried Kubica to the hospital...
It was a terrible crash, some reporters were wondering if he was still alive...

Have a beer !  ;D

 ;D

This is our local bar, so yes have a beer :)
As in any bar, you can discus anything in here

k

I probably better make some music instead of wasting time here drinking  ;D
 ::)

Cheers

A good beer with friends is never a waste of time :D

k

Are we tired of music girls and boys? Nice to know you are all of drinking age---pass me a Stella if you have it, with a chilled mug.

A stella is good choice  ;D

You guys get the SPEED chanel feed? They had a 3-hour special yesterday called F1 Live (from Indianapolis). The panelists (Windsor, Hatchet, Daly, etc) interviewed every F1 driver in front of a live crowd (except for Kubica who is trying to race this weekend if he's cleared). Interesting format. I have never seen that with F1, so you might look for it if you get that feed.

Interesting to get a feel for their individual personality. Easily the best spoken of the lot was Coulthard, Takuma perhaps the most engaging, the most serious was probably Heidfeld. Alonzo was actually a pretty good interview, in stark contrast to Kimi...but you could have guessed that ;) ;D

Well, I don't have the full broadcast but some extract from it. I watch it while in the US....
We get the full qualifying and it's interesting to see how much more room is in the indy track, contrast is higher beacuse we're coming from a tight city track as Montecarlo.  ;)

Let's see it

Cheers

My favourite beers are Stella A - Heineken - Warsteiner
in the Us usually Coors or Miller but there are many good micro-breweries and also european beers like Beck's or Heineken are popular and easily available nowdays... ;D

I like Heineken, Bud and Mythos (Greek Beer) ;)

Heineken ???? C'mon we are talking beer here not dishwatter....  ::)
Better give me another Stella here

Bud is ok too
and
Tennents (Scotish)
and
most Belgium beers

k

PS: Dat zullen de Nederlanders nu eens leuk vinden  ;D

I'm Dutch and I don't like Heineken nor Amstel one bit. My favourite Dutch beer is Hertog Jan. Not available abroad I think.

I got a Beer called "Berliner" in my fridge ;) (the last one)
Has anyone tried this?
In my Opinion, it was worth carrying a pack of 6 such Beers from Berlin.... ;D

mmm... :-\ ...never heard of it

Another good one is Pilsener Urquell from Czech rep.  :)

Hey LR! Where are you from? Canada? You visit US often?

The beer I enjoy most is Corona with a slice of lime...especially when just in from a hot day golfing here in the valley ;)  102 degrees on Friday :o

However, I'm 5 weeks in to a quest to lose 30 lbs (not sure the kilo equivalent ;D) so I'm limited to 2 beers a week...Michelob Ultra...an ok tasting beer with very low carb count.

btw, your place is really doing well here Rony & Moon. Sorry I haven't been around as I should lately. BUT, the house is now officially painted...inside and out. The last thing is new carpet and some hardwood down the hallway. But I'm taking a break first so I can get a little rest and finally work on a tune Martin sent me. I'll be getting it done this week, Martin!!!  I promise! No excuses ::)

Anyway, gottta run. The live feed from Indy just started. Sorry, can't pull for Hamilton anymore after seeing his interview...he's a phenon but he's not humble about it in the least. Actually, I'm not sure who to pull for anymore...maybe Massa...seems like a good guy. I'd love to pull for Speed. Actually I know him slightly from my karting days, but he's just not the brightest bulb in the socket (if you know what I mean) ;D

Enough writing for now? ::)

Hamilton is not very modest. But Schumacher wasn't either And that makes a champion I guess. Alonso must be wondering what the hell is happening to him. ???
 Same car, same strategy; can't beat that guy Hamilton  Alonso is  :-[

No, when I say 'we' I mean 'we' european as Kara, Martin, and the others, I'm a mixed Swiss, italian, German but I work for company which has an american branch and I'm often visiting Vancouver, Seattle and sometimes other places over there...

Cheers

Yeah, I agree Hamilton is not very humble, but I don't like that Alonso...
But I probably already told you that... ::)

Now I'm following Tiger Woods trying to keep up with Cabrera  :o

 ;D

Well, I suppose if you are one of the best pilots in the world, it's hard to be humble.
Allready to be a F1 pilot you need a certain kind of personality I guess.

k

Woow ! Ferrari on top....

I'm an idiot !  >:(

You wouldn't believe it but I was finishing Mr. President and completly forgot about the race  ::)

k

 ;D
I imagine you were really into that...  ;D

My man won.

Kimi  ;D ;D  Unbelievable come-back by Ferrari. They were dominant all weekend. Just for the record I'm not a Ferrari fan. Just a Kimi fan.

Cool ! Congratulations !  ;D

The pit strategy worked perfectly for Kimi. Honestly, I was surprised he pulled it off.

Reportedly, Ferrari had a major accident in their wind tunnel a little while back which they claim inhibited them from getting the most out of their cars in the North American races. Not sure how much of that is true (its F1 afterall ;)) but they looked good in France!!!

And Rony, shame on you, in your own country and all  ::)

I know, I know <Head banging head here .... > ::)

This is the Silverstone race weekend. Toyota is doing good in the free practice, is fast as Ferrari and Mclaren.
Today we'll see how qualifying ends...  ???

Cheers

Ralphy showed up today  :o

I guess Hamilton really is that good!

A great race ! I think the british track remains one of the most spectacular (at least with these cars)
Good strategy for Raikkonen and good recover for Massa. Alonso and Hamilton were both good but suffers Ferrari power in this faster track

Cheers

I think your right, LR!  Also, Martin should be happy today as Kimi won. I wonder if they have TV on Kos? :-\ ;D

*smile* beer (http://youtube.com/watch?v=R4HNGZUrPOk&mode=related&search=) xD ...cu

tro

Hi guys, back with a suntan. Yeah saw the Silverstone race alright. Barman had the tv set up. Escaped Kos just in time before it hits 40 degrees Celcius out there. Nice and cool in The Netherlands.

So Kimi again on pole and Hamilton on a stretcher. We'll see what tomorrow brings. The Europe grandprix is usually pretty boring but maybe it will be different this time.

Yeah, Hamilton had a problem yesterday. :o
This is an intense (passive)-sport weekend  ;D
The spaniard Sergio Garcia is leading the british open, don't you all like golf ?
And I'll also follow the motorbikes/MotoGP race in Laguna seca, late evening in europe but 2 pm california time.
That track seems really improved in the last years, but the famous 'corkscrew' remains a very spectacular point.

Cheers

Very interesting race. I enjoyed that.
Now Garcia is messing things up. He's 2nd with Harrington atm, a guy from Argentina is taking the lead.
After Cabrera he could be the 2nd Argentinan to win a major tornament in the same year  :o
Let's see how Garcia recovers.....

Well, your were right, anything but boring this time round  :o  That was fun to watch.


Hey LR, great Open golf tourney as well!  Yup, big day for the couch  ;D

A bump  ;D

We realy don't drink enough here  ;D

Sadly true... ;D

We're entering the final phase of F1 championship, but I'm afraid there'll be no more surprises... :-[

Cheers

Famous Last Words :o

I wouldn't put money on that with this series ::)

Maybe I'll tie one on tonight. Your all welcome to join me  ;D


That's true, no more surprises. But, the soap opera that F1 is, I'd say we got our money's worth this year  ;)

This is like the largest thread in the entire forum...can someone clue me in as to what exactly spawned this enormous discussion?...don't get me wrong,I LOVE beer,in fact,Sagres Preta is my favorite brew currently. ;D

I never peered into this thread before,just curious. :)

Just bits and pieces (beer and nuts), Thom. Non-music related common interests.  Btw, just poured a Mango/Vodka. Interesting combination ;)

Back to F1 however...just as we thought no more surprises, I hear the FIA is considering penalizing Hamilton for his driving behind the safety car!!!  Ah, F1. Gotta love it :D :D  Qualifying is about to start soon. Maybe we'll hear more about it.

Just look at it as our local bar  ;D
It will be cofee for me, to early for a beer here  :D

k

Yeah, this year was fun compared to the last couple of championship...

Don't think there was any serious investigation of Hamilton - just media speculation (what a surprise) and more speculation that he may be considering quitting F1 cos he's sick of all the backstabbing.

Looks like the young black 'upstart' has pissed off all the aging prima-donnas :o

I reckon we could see more sparks flying yet ;D

Hmmm, some of us keep some mighty odd hours here!

Yeah, I agree.



Although there could be thrill in the last 2 races I'm afraid the leaderboard won't change...  ;)

Cheers

Don't be so sure just yet!!!  Fantastic strategical race 8)

I hate to say 'I told you so' :-\

Actually that's not true. I'm rather chuffed ;D

Yep big error of Hamilton here.
Changes everything, winning give 10 points
So we have 3 potential champions !

Interesting last race it will be

k

@Folderol : You're right !

I was wrong... :-[
But I'm glad the last race doesn't lose importance
it'll be a battle

Cheers

Just wanna say good beer to everyone and some happy new nuts  ;)

Cheers !

I'll drink to that ;D

A toast to the hacking problem solved by Moon

Cheers

Sure, he deserves a drink.

Cheers

Hmm, I know he is a champaign lover  ;D

k

Yes, please bring me a bottle, I need it !  ;D

Here, have two..they're on the house!

Wyatt

And here's one from me......

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 ;)
James

Thanks guys!

Be careful not to make me drunk though... ;)

Don't worry..I'm driving..hehe.

Vroom,

Wyatt

I agree
Thank you all for the support, but you don't want to see Moon drunk  ;D

k

I'll make a deal and will safe some bottles to open when the CD get's pressed !  ;)

Moon

:D Very good idea, I think everybody will drink champaign then

It's going to be a stressful weekend for us Limeys

Rugby
F1

'nuff said?

 ;D We're very excited around here ;D

Cheers

Well ... rugby we are out (france)
F1 will be very interesting  ;D

k

I never thought i would start listening to Bruce Springsteen, but here i am, the song "Magic" from his new album is brilliant...  :D
Radio Nowhere reminds me a bit of Pearl Jam, simple rock'n'roll that really works.
A glass of champagne for that!







This is what we'll be.

Excuse me i'm already drunk, cheers!

10 minutes for start of the last F1, get the beers out  ;D

k

Thanks for not mentioning that England came 2nd in the rugby :-\

Hmpf!

There was something damn funny about Hamilton's car. Why on only this race does he have strange loss of power? And the decision to use soft tires early in the race? What was that all about? Even with that he manages to pull up from 17th place back to 7th.

Yep strange, I don't get it
Still, big deception here  :'(

Now I have a reason to get drunk  ::)

k

a really weird ending to a weird season... :o

Cheers

Yeah, my man Kimi did it.  ;D   Sorry guys. Drinks are on me

Cheers.

Martin! You gotta be lovin this!!!  Awesome drama this year. Loved it. Congrats, Ferrari 8) 8) 8)

ohhh  I forgot to say....
Congratulations to Raikkonen and Ferrari ! They prove to be a great team. Their persistence was rewarded in the end  8)

Cheers

OK. I've recovered now. Congrats too. He drove a good drive!

Just having a browse through this thread. Whatever happened to:

Ed
Neleke
Van Greco
 ???

True long time we didn't see them....

k

Hi there,
one of the main subject for discussion, here, is watching sports...
What's going on atm ? is anybody following NFL football ? I'm not a fan of any particular team but I like watching a big match on TV. I know it's not very popular in Europe, but there were a game last sunday in London's Wembley stadium. It's more rewarding than advertisment for the league.
I like downhill skiing world cup as well
Any other sport ?

Cheers

I tend to just dip in and out of various sports (as a spectator I hasten to add). I got quite interested in F1 this year as a lot of very strange and different things were happening. In the SCHUMACHER years it was getting positively boring.

I quite like to see ice dance, and gymnastics, especially the floor exercises, but these seem never to be on TV these days :(

I'm a soccer man. So just plain football as we call it here in Europe. I'm still playing myself but I'm getting older and my body lets me know so after a game. ;D So that's my main sport of interest. I also like to watch F1 though not as fervent as a couple of years ago.

Seemed well-attended from what I could see.

Big news in the NFL is this weekend's match up between the Patriots and Colts...both undefeated...the top two favorites to win it all this year. How often is the defending champs and winners of the last 12 or 13 games in a row, an underdog at home? Interesting match up.

I try not to like too many sports (takes too much time), but can't help liking racing and pro football. The winter olympics also get some of my time!!

Great expectations from this match, I'm glad to watch it on pay tv... ;)

Hey LR, too bad you have to pay for it. So, hopefully it will be close and exciting (and you'll get your money's worth ;))

 :) ...warming up. Tv food's ready...  ;)

I didn't get to watch any TV today at all.

Morning was spent getting some autumn photos while the leaves were still on the trees (Denge Wood of course), then shopping, and this afternoon a massive clear-up in the garden and fence rebuild, leaving me too tired for much else.

... and of course now I'm on here :D

I had some hiking in the morning. I like it.
Now I'm taking a break from TV, we watch Minnesota - San Diego (a good match. The Vikings took the lead in the 2nd half)
Now is the time for the big match  ;)

Cheers

Well..I gotta admit I watch every Lions game  :o...only this year it's a lot more fun!
Their record for last 8 games; 6wins-2losses
Record for the 30 games before that; 6wins-24losses
They had a great game today; 44-7 over Denver.

...watching the San Diego Chargers @ Jacksonville and I was expecting a more effective offense from SD.
Well I like both teams so I'm enjoying the match...

Cheers

Did you see the highlights late in the Baltimore/Cleveland game? Now that was exciting!

hmmm
don't have a tv...
but I like a beer now and then and of course I'm nuts.

That works!

Yeah, that was weird  :o

On Thanksgiving Day I watched on Tv 3 quarters of the NY Jets - Dallas cowboys match, but it wasn't really exciting imo  :-\
I hope to catch some interesting game this WE

Cheers

Next Thursday...Dallas/Green Bay!

Very well ! it'll be a clash of titans since they're both 10-1  :o

I've seen the last part of NYG-Minnesota Vikings but the result was already written

Cheers

hey hows the gang, one beer please, I'm on a diet...
speaking of football, the Grey Cup on Sunday seen the cup return to Regina for the 1st time in 18 years,
whatta smash mouth battle, 23-19
Winnipeg lost its starting QB the week before with a broken arm, called up Ryan Dinwiddie from Boise State, the kid did alright..was driving for the go ahead td with a minute left but threw an interception to seal the Regina win

well maybe one more beer  ;D

He Ed! How the heck are ya?

hey ed!
how can-na-na-na-da?

well I'm better now cause the tree I tried to pull down on myself didn't hit me full on, a glancing blow, lol, but it did lay me out for about 6 weeks

now that I think of it, I better have another beer

hey, hey , hey,....goodbye
 ;D


hope every little thing is good

oops was that tree heart ?

k

... and did you say tree-mend-us ;D

::)   ;D ;D ;D rofl
Ed
seems to me the last time we talked you hurt yourself doing something similar?
Heck, I was laid up two days jut changing the starter in my truck... :P

yep dd, the bones are brittle and the mind is weak, but somebodies gotta prune the forest, now that I've taken up roots there   :P

I'll go out on a limb here and say, it'll prolly happen again as I saw it

perhaps if you sat on the proper side of the branch while sawing? ;)

to those of you in the US who might watch sports you could watch my ex jump off a bridge tomorrow night.

ESPN C E:60 Tuesday Dec 11 at 6pm CST.


it came... it went

Hmmm. It seems the England football team is going to have a new Italian coach who calls a spade a spade, and doesn't pander to prima-donna player 'stars'.

This could be an interesting year or two :D

happy holidays, merry and joseph, free drinks and a good night to all my old mates here

cheerzzzz....

yeah hollidays & free drinks & parties  ;D 8)

k

...if I were still working I'd be on vacation about now...

on vacation until next thursday... :-\
not bad  ;)

Cheers

OK..so I am trying to learn how to type all over again on this laptop..not enough light in here apparently..don't know why I never noticed that before..

..anyway a short tale..a few months ago, I happen on some nice looking stainless steel containers shaped just like a shot glass..and since I didn't own a shot glass any longer, and since I tuck the occasional bottle of Bombay Sapphire into the freezer, I decided to buy them. [you would recognize these..restuarants often serve salad dressing, tartar sauce, or ketchup in them]

..so anyway..the other day..just for the heck of it, I measured them, and much to my surprise I found that rather than holding the 1 oz I had assumed..they actually hold three ounces.

Now that explains a LOT of things..    :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

Wyatt

@Wyatt :  ;D LOL  ;D

Well, lately my life has become 'interesting' (and expensive too).

First of all half my own website disappeared (it's still not back although I can access it directly via FTP), then I lost all 'net access.

'Extended' calls to my ISP and my Line provider sort of got flaky results, with each blaming the other. They first both tried to say it was my end, but had to admit that was unlikely when the ordinary phone works perfectly, and I had swapped in a replacement router and microfilter.

At work on Friday, I was informed that a part we have already been waiting several weeks for will not now be available until the middle of January. This means one of our jobs comes to a dead halt. I hasten to add that I had to make calls to the supplier, then the supplier's supplier. Nobody had bothered to let anyone know there was a problem.

Saturday, taking a break from all of this I went down a narrow country lane, as a sort of short cut to one of my chillout places, only I never got there. As I reached a bend on the steepest part, I lost all traction to a patch of oil rather than ice. This was also at just about the only part where the bank is not straight sided but curves up from the road. The result was that the car was slowly but firmly rolled over onto it's side.

Because of the timing, the car can't be assessed for repairs until 2nd January, and until the insurers agree the estimate and authorise the work I don't get a courtesy car.

I was afraid I was going to have to cancel all my Christmas arrangements, but the one good bit of news is that I was finally able to get a hire car ... at 5:30 this evening!

seems you could use some of Wyatt's "one ounce" glasses about now...

Take care, as life can always go worse, so just hope for the better.






















and don't forget to blame it all on someone else!!!!!!111!!!!

Haha..that's exactly what I was going to suggest..nothing like a half a dozen three ounce shots to give you a whole new perspective!!

Merry Christmas, y'all.

Wyatt

PS..ddw..where is your rolling stock parked, right about now??

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been hanging here, waiting for parts to come in for a couple of months.

Not a bad place to hang, if you like rain forests and ocean views (and whales and seals and crabs and deer and elk and thank goodness the bears are hibernating)

In August I was stranded in Omaha... no comparison.

Cool Def,

..I have trod a lot of footprints not far from where you are..waiting on parts..bummer..nice part of the world to hang out in, anyway.

..I spent quite a few years vagabonding in various contraptions..covered a lot of territory..

..used to go hide out at the seaside every so often..just N. of Astoria..not that long ago..

Wyatt

PS..Here's one for you..this was from another chapter..on another coast:

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-much respect for living on a cat. Vaga-wandering suits me fine.

funnie about me, as much as I like the ocean I hate being on a boat in a choppy sea. And as you know the sea gets mighty choppy.

Today I was watching 6-20' waves crashing against the rocks at Harrison Beach

About the most 'rocking' I can stand is the truck parked in 40mph gusts with the jacks up.
The nice part about being on land is I can always lower the jacks (from inside the truck lol)

-The truck runs fine, but the carb is grumpy and the throttle plate is almost worn out. Gas mileage is well below 10mpg! Can't get a bushing kit for it anymore so I had to get a new carburetor which I'm installing sometime this week.
When the heck did these things get so expensive? Last carb I bought was less then $100 about 10 years ago. This one was $500.

But one trip to SoCal pays for the repairs... plus some.

My lady and I built it and lived on it..sailed it all the way around Florida.


Yes..unfortunately I know..it can be a real terror sometimes.

I got used to it..there is a stage where you get seasick when you get on land! ..that's right..get on land and all of a sudden everything is moving. What I loved about it the most was poking around in the dinghy..exploring..

..the life was tough on my lady so I sold the boat..no complaint there..I got the better end of that deal.  :)


Yikes!!..they are nailing me every time I get something for my truck..sucker cost me a grand last month..heck of a reason to hang onto it, eh??  :))

..it's not that there is no inflation..it's just that nobody cares anymore..aint television wonderful?

You headed south when you're fixed up?  If I were still at it, I would be looking for a deal on a building lot down where they had the fires..put a house on it, and finance a few more years.



Wyatt

Wow, thats a boat!  :o
You should take it over here and I'll show you the fjords of Norway...oh you sold it...well, build a new one  :P


I know that feeling when you get on land and things won't stop moving. It's quite unpleasant :-X



Ragnar

It took three years to build that boat, and two months to rig it. That was somewhat of a speed record.


That usually happens early on, just before you adjust to it..then it doesn't bother you any more..you just walk funny.  :P

Wyatt

Whoa Wyatt!!! That's quite some boat....and adventure!!! I'm impressed.

That's cool ! I like boats but I never sailed so much distance  8)

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may we all have these moments

..great picture, def!

..where do you plan to winter?

Wyatt

@wyatt
dunno-
I'll be in the Sacramental CA area in a week or so and I'll stay there until I go somewhere else. ;D

No plans, no expectations no bothers.


As a more normal view of the same beach is this:

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that doesn't show how big these wavs are but these pics give a better scale, shot the next day by the coast guard auxillary
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the cutter is about 15 meters (47')

although it completely turned over, cutters are self-righting

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Yes, and whoaa doggies..I have seen the likes of them. Gotta watch out when you are entering the mouth of a river..crossing the bar..whew!! ..reminds me of some scarey moments.

Cool pictures.

Wyatt

- why I don't go on boats lol.

...due more battering tomorrow and the rest of the week.
I think I like the Oregon coast because of Pacific extremes!
The moderate temps here keep me happy, as I'm burning about 3-4 gallons of propane per week. Hardly any people during the winter.

I lived in the Florida Keys in the early 70's, but having re-visited in '02 I wasn't enthralled with the masses.
Although I do miss snorkeling!

Good thinking..I now live equidistantly far from any ocean.  :)



Sounds like you are "in the pocket" on that..low propane use and no people..perfect formula for wintering-over. I have pulled a trailer into some fairly out of the way places in November, and then had them fill up in December..yikes!! ..and wouldn't you know it, the first person to come into the campground would inevitably park right next to me..


..hmm..have to count years backwards on my fingers..that must be a sign of something.  :)  ..I was in Key West in '01..on a mooring in Garrison Bight..2 1/2 miles from the dinghy dock..a few hundred yards from the Navy Seals "Better Not Land Here, Sucka" signs..used to watch them parachute into the ocean and then get picked up by helicopter..

Weird town, Key West..it's kind of like cafe' racing at the zoo.  :)

I was doing a re-fit with some parts I picked up in Naples on the way down..some of the hardware the designer spec'ed out failed in our first storm..so I got busy and overbuilt the hardware..found me a nice little island and outfitted my (dinghy) 12 foot Carolina Skiff for big game fishing..Grouper and Barracuda are still my favorite eating fish.

I used to spear fish under the boat and then fire up the little stainless steel BBQ..yeah..it had its moments. 

Keep warm; keep dry.

Wyatt

Just the same, I think I'd have to pass on that ride ;)  :D

I get seasick just looking at the picture, fortunately i can't afford a boat  :D

Brrrr.

It's all so cold and, well ... wet! <shudder>

Interesting pictures... :o
I still love the sea....

I wouldn't be here I f I didn't!
I've just reduced my activities to tide pool watching and such lol.

darn it, my carburetor still hasn't arrived >:(

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It does snow here!!!

(stayed on the ground for almost an hour)


so Wyatt, you live equidistant to oceans?

OMAHA!!!!!

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 say "hi" to my daughter!

Haha..close, Def..one of the best kept secrets in the country..dang, I jest let the cat out of the bag.  ;D

It tried to snow here once this year, but didn't..saw a bluebird today, and I still go outside in a t-shirt..climate is almost as good as Hawaii without all the danged rain..I am surrounded by gentle foothills and thousands of acres of the Big Peace and Quiet..deer, bobcat, cougar, coyote, turkey, and cattle.

..of course I still have a work-boat..but I'm only on step three and it's a twelve step program!   :D

Wyatt

Nice photos..thanks for sharing your trip!

hmm 12 steps
I NEVER get past step one.

well how 'bout that foosball!
(is it over yet?)

I'm currently at an Indian casino in Coos Bay because it got way late/foggy to drive.


I'm looking towards spending new year's eve charting KvR Kontest tunes because  I need to finish that chore; a chore it is for me because I indiscriminately  use ambiguous methods of judging other's work.

i.e I have no ideas or maybe too many ideas how to.
probably both.
forever clueless.

LOL  ;D

This month I wrote a short-list on my 1st listening session
I picked my favourites on the 2nd
and checked it on the last one

Cheers

 :o
New England ended up doing a perfect 16-0 season
Let's see their next games  :-\

Cheers

Ha! You're talking 'foreign' again :P

ohh damn  ;D you're right... but being an int'ntl bar chat I'm staying on both sides of the pond  ;D lol

Let's get ready for the upcoming party !!!  :-

We drink to the new year !  ;)

Happy 2008   ;D


Cheers

Plans already made mate :D :-

In just under 2 1/2 hours  I shall wander out of my front door with a very full glass of Baileys, wish the good health of my neighbours and watch the free firworks display put on by all those in town who decided to buy them.

Living half-way up a hill overlooking most of the Medway area I expect to see a good show :;

I'd love to see the Colts take them out in the AFC Championship  >:D

Thanks LR! Same to you!

May the new year bring you all musical inspiration by the bounty!  HNY!!! :-

Fred, L.R., Will,

And the rest of you crazed tunesmiths.....

We're going to be great
                        in two thousand and eight. :;

Oren.

Cool, I think that's a wide area... was it good ?

<yawn> Mmmm <scritch>
What day is it?
Hey it's 2008 :-

@Oren I see you've already penned the first two lines of your new song ;)

@L.R. Not bad, not bad at all. Not quite up to the standards of London or Edinburgh ;D

@Fred : It seems the weather is really bad these days in California, any news ?  :-\

Its been nasty here, LR. Nice this morning, but the rain came down in sheets yesterday afternoon. Lucky I got out first thing in the morning to repair the fence (the wind knocked down a couple sections) befor the rains hit. Suffered the old scrated gonads on the way back over the fence though :D

The wind was unbelievable on Friday. Actually kept people in the foothills from making it to work.

Felt sorry for the folks in the mountains with a few areas getting +100 mph wind gusts (the highest in the Valley was 82, 72 in my area). Blizzard conditions and a a real mess up there in the Sierras.

Good thing is... no serious flooding in our area, and I keep looking up at the ceiling...but no leaks yet ;D

Its settling down a bit today. Thanks for asking!!

btw, did you see Pittsburgh just give the game away at the end yesterday? Terrible coaching :P

Haven't heard from Def for a week, either.

Wyatt

Talked to him briefly on NY Day and he was fine then....before the storms. Still waiting for a carb for his MH. He probably just doesn't have a hook up presently. I suspect he'll be around again soon.

He's ok, i saw him today on kvr

k

Oh, good, I'm glad your doin fine.


Yeah, that's true it seems like a wasted season for them.
I had a glance at Seattle over Washington, as well. But I think it'll be hard for them with Green bay.
I'm not really an expert into the field, but I see the 'usual suspects' Indianapolis and New England doing well, not expecting any surprise from underdogs, but I can be wrong  :-\

Cheers

Well, if you couldn't be wrong, you would be rich ;) ;D

The AFC seems to be a little stronger then the NFC with Ind & New England in that conference. Of course, only one of those two can go to the Super Bowl. So, I'm hoping for Ind to beat NE in an upset in the AFC Championship Game. Can always hope  ::)  ;D

In the NFC, the top two teams seem to be Dallas and Green Bay.

But, every year there seems to be an upset or two along the way. That's what makes it fun!

see, I don't hang here and you guys go back to foosball discussions LOL

on-off line and bumping about with a new computer blah blah.
My 'rebuilt' carb arrived and it was in worse condition then the one I already have, so we sent it back.
So now I'm, as usual, waiting around.
I might have accidently turned off notifications again cause I'm an idiot most days and seriously flawed on others.

Back home after a short business trip
:tired:


Cool ! we drink to that and the upcoming week-end  ;)

welp
notifications is again, "on" :;

trying to decide whether I should go down to the coast today
-probably I'll wait til tomorrow as in "too much effort" <grin>

The joy of living in a van  ??? ::) ;D

k

Coooooool O0   Glad to see I'm not alone!!  That's how I play golf  :D

How ya doin Bill? Besides the carb and the snow? :D 

HAHA
I did notice there are 'issues' living in an old truck.
Luckily I have noting else better to do than take care of broken things and re-sealing the occasional mis-hap (did I tell you about the three bone-headed oil jockeys who directed my truck right into an overhead obstruction.... bleck)

I love the weather here. I'd have to go as far south as San Francisco to get a better ratio of sun/ovecast days!  But... the electrical is heavily based on solar power. I NEED SUN
Funny how the weather directly south of here is much colder.

So I'm looking forward to a new carburetor.
I know I can use a different manufacturer's setup. I'm guessing I might have to go that route to get up the mpg again.


Cheers!

well heck... after reviewing the news around the border counties I'm only going as far south as Fred's house (your neighbors won't mind, will they Fred?  >:D )

I'm re-evaluating my directions now!!! But I REALLY don't want to pass through the Sierra Nevada's via I-80 if I can only travel in the right lane (like rolling over crevices!!- they need to fix that hiway)

so anyway, on this month's KvR contest (where I truly enjoy annoying contestants) adj (alex) asked about collaborators.
I insisted we do it "in the thread". Put up some lame metal guitar intro and said TAG, you're IT (http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/12/21/1655647/entroDDK.mp3)
Of course he (she... who cares) declined the offer so I started collaborating with my self, first churning out
this (http://www.box.net/shared/m8rieoq4o0)
then  this (http://www.box.net/shared/lxj0kcv4gs)
and
and today, with my 'new' old pc
 this  (http://www.box.net/shared/9l7nh8ycck)


...it's a hobby!!!!

Park in front of the neighbors on the north side...I don't like those people >:D

 ;D

I'm glad you're finally ready to move again. I'm following with curiosity your travel diary.
The place you are will certainly affect your music inspiration. (and good company too...  ;) )

Cheers

Fred's got it made...intelligent, funny, has a  great family, great friends, a talking dog...
and Fred's a great conversationalist!

too bad I'm not...
if I start talking it's always about me me me me.
I'm making the attempt to listen more and talk less. (which is somewhat difficult because I actually am quite deaf)
-oh- there I goes again talking about me...

so how dat foosball stuff? ;D

Yep, maybe, when he's not taking a nap. AND, he's overweight, old as dirt, and extreemly opinionated (like any old German American).

But he does have a talking dog  ;) 

Yesterday, Green bay and New England made it to the final round (as expected)
...San Diego and Indianapolis is truly a big-match, and they're fighting right now (later we'll have NYG - Dallas)
So there's still plenty of time and room for some surprise  >:D

Cheers

 :o
the San Diego Chargers aren't certainly the last team of the bunch but I wasn't expecting that

While mooching around the 'interwebbys' I stumbled on this.

http://www.siteadvisor.jp/sites/kara-moon.com/summary/

Thought it might be of general interest :)

Good press, Will  :)

Great !  ;D
Thanks for the link Will

k

That's an useful page !  8)



mmmhh...
Just noticed :

(http://www.laguna-rising.com/images/users.jpg)

There are many just visiting.... :-\

Well... the main reason that we had a lot of visitors yesterday, is that emdot ambiant at kvr reposted a link to his samples at the sample section here...
So, a lot here just come here to grab the sampleset.

But, it's true that it is a shame that those people don't sign up here and participate to the board.
And i don't know if we can do anymore here to progress and get more members  ???

k

it's going to be an interesting evening.... ;)

Hey LR....ARE YA READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?????    :D :D

C'mon Chargers!!!!

I don't know why they don't just have one ball each, then play nice >:D

<ducks and runs, weaving erratically>

Norv Turner blew this one. :'(

Will-
http://ibohmwhaniisot.com/

You a card carrying member??   ;D

  Even though Brady is from UofM, and I rooted for him for years, I just hate to see a team go undefeated. 
here's to the underdogs..

Shhh!

+1        Only one chance left and its the Giants  ::)

Borrowing someone's bandwidth, I'm about to see how long till I'm discovered.

I guess I promised to stay in the Sacramento area for a couple of weeks longer.

Later...

Well, bright and early Friday morning I'm off to catch a  plane to sunny Fuerteventura for a week.

It's the only way I can force myself to chill-out properly. No computers. No boss. No noisy neighbours.

The hardest decision I'll have to make each day will be whether to cool off in the sea, or in a beach bar ;D

I might drop in here again later this evening or tomorrow - it depends how easy the packing turns out to be!

Great Will, have a great holliday
Think of us poor souls  ;D

k

I'm glad Folderol is in Fuerteventura, nice place for a vacation
I'd like to have one myself  ::)

Cheers

I think there's people getting ready for the Superbowl Sunday  :o
I've been there a couple of times in the past and I think I'll miss some atmosphere around the event, that only the people in the us can understand.
The food habits, commercials and all the fuzz.
It's starting at midnight here in europe so I think most of the people will watch it tomorrow evening (not live)

Cheers

Hey LR, you must be part merican ;) :D :D

Not really, but having been there many times I know custom, habits and behaviour...
Cheers

 LR>>  Then I can only hope you haven't learned too many bad habits!  ;D

Wyatt

so ends another futbal season.

can there ever be enough bad american habits?

oh yeah... the cheesy keyboard i've been using is breaking usb connections. Quess i have to retire it soon.
it's no longer in production dimmit.

Hey, what's up, Bill?

I need a new keyboard
I need new tenants
I need a new water pump - luv usamade junk
I need to start drinking whiskey again.


-how goes the mixing, Fred?

Ouch...suggest you go ahead and start with #4 now  ;D  Just...no driving at the same time ::)

No mixing lately. Will be working on setting up a new DAW. Should be here this week. So, no mixing for awhile  ::) :D

No mixing is a good idea..it just waters down the whiskey.


Wyatt

I agree  ;D

:D

-well whiskey
da bestest.
went a whole month without drinking any and I finally have an appointment for the truck. AND a bottle of canada's best (or worst, depending)

Still need a new keyboard. I probably shouldn't have re-learned piano on a minikeys keyboard but what the heck. Limits my choices!

The 'key' (snicker) is it has to be a small keyboard and 37 keys are about right for most my crap playing.
-off to search the interwebbies.

Well I just got back from my holiday. Boy have you lot been busy while I was away :o

Must find time to have a look at those files james worked on.

Things are still a bit disorganised for me. It didn't help when my office 'pooter went bang as soon as I switched it on >:(
So I'm working entirely from my music one at the moment (which I really don't like doing)

Welcome back  8)
I hope you had a good holliday

k

The holiday was great :) The computer woes since are erm, also great :(

First the PSU in my office machine died, so I used the music one for e-mail and web browsing for a while.

Eventually got a new PSU (it's one of those slimline ones). The office 'pooter ran fine for a couple of days then started doing very strange things. At random it would run v e r y  s l o w l y, then pick up again. Thought it was maybe a memory problem and changed that out which seemed to make a slight improvement, but not much.

Then I started to get disk errors (on a 2 year old sata drive) and almost every time I switched the machine on, it would go though a forced disk recovery routine. Finally it wouldn't even get past the login screen ???

Temporarily hooking the disk into my music machine, lo & behold it booted up perfectly. Stuck the supposedly faulty memory in there and that behaved perfectly too, so it looks like the earlier PSU failure damaged the motherboard.

Just to make things interesting my only spare machine doesn't have sata capability, so I had deep joy using my music machine to transfer all the important files to dvd, doing a fresh install on the old machine then copying the data to it and configuring everything to my usual style. Finally restoring my music machine to it's normal state.

That all took large chunks of the weekend :(

Now what were we saying about percentage of time actually making music ::)

 :-[
This was beyond routine maintenance, I'd call it extraordinary hassle  :-\


 ;D

Well, its been a big fat 0 for me!  Sorry to hear of your troubles. I'm finally back up on the internet (on the second pooter), but setting up a DAW from scratch has been a dreadful experience. All under control now I think, (don't ask ::) ) but a long way still to go. I think its going to be really nice when its done and ready to go.

Propably the reason I love my hardware Boss BR600 recorder  ;D

k

In case anyone is interested, I'll be going to the Linux Audio Conference in Cologne on Friday 29th. It actually starts on Thursday, but I could only grab one day off work. However it carries on till Sunday :)

This has been running for a couple of years now, but I've never been before. There are several concerts, sound exhibitions and papers & workshops. One bit that particularly grabbed my attention is 'AMBI@Home'. This is apparently a paper on setting up ambisonic listening with only simple cheap kit and all the control being done in software.

I like the old city anyway, so even if this all turns out not to be my 'thing' I'll enjoy the weekend!

More info is at http://lac.linuxaudio.org/

That must be very interesting  8)
A shame it is not in the right period for me  :(
I'll be in Germany in July....

k

... and now for something completely different :)

I thought there was a knob on the TV to increase the programme intelligence ???

There's one marked 'Brightness' but it doesn't seem to work ::)

Good one  ;D ;D ;D

 ;D
I had to read it 4 times to understand it  ::) but english isn't my native english
Good play with words

k

beer and {am I going} nuts?

I downloaded TJ-Baby (1995) yesterday but didn't have time to really listen or comment. I was going to comment today but it's disappeared (or is doing a good camouflage (job) ???

What is TJ-baby ?

k

It's a song (rather a good one) that appeared on here briefly. When I couldn't find it again I thought I must have been mistaken and got it from KVR, but there is no trace of it there either.

P.S.

I'm not imagining it. I still have the track in my 'downloads' directory. Unfortunately no tags were set :(

Well, I had a great time at the Linux Audio Conference. Some of the more technical papers went a bit over my head but there was some really interesting stuff there.

There were some fun audio 'installations' too. The one that got everyone, was called 'hear shaped box'. As youi approached it, it made sort of delicate 'tweety' sounds which got louder as you got nearer, then with just a hint of vocalisations. Reach out to the box (everyone did) and it roars at you like a lion!

The Saturday evening concert was fun, with about 10-12 items varying from 1 - 8 min., but more soundscape orientated rather than 'conventional' music.

I will definitely be going again.

And you didn't make a movie of all this  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

k

Actually, I believe some of the talks were recorded, and I'm sure I saw a camera at the concert.

www.lac.linuxaudio.org is likely to have the details eventually.

F1 : back to the old pasttime  ;D
have you seen Raikkonen false start ?

You wouldn't believe it... I was so busy with our new song that I forgot to look  ::)

k

Be interesting to see how this season shapes up with various people changing teams.

F1...whoa, what a mess that was  :o

Oh, I haven't seen it yet. To early for me. ;D

I'm watching it later (in a couple of hours)  ???

Almost disaster  ::)

We got it live on "speed channel" (in HD this year!) at 9:00 pm. Next week though at Malaysia it shows live at 11:00 pm. But its a Saturday night, so I'll probably stay up and watch it anyway  ;D  Had a friend over and we celebrated the first race of the year with an artichoke spread over sourdough french bread slices and Margaritas. Apple turnovers for desert.  :D

Didn't know you guys watched it later. Good thing I didn't give too much away :)

That's Ok

A bit of envy for your menu and drinks :-X
I'm so hungry... waiting to go out for late dinner...

 ;D

Cheers

Another interesting F1 race in Malaysia...
I heard the results but I'll see the full-race later in the afternoon  :-\

 ???
 :-\

?

Crap pit-stop
No water

WTF are they doing to the guy?

Anyway it looks like being a very interesting season.

I think many people visit this site looking for samples...

I like R. Kubica's driving, he's still young but he can do good

Cheers

@LR
Sometimes I just do a quick look in without logging on to see if there's anything new - I may well not be the only one ;D

Aha..I see..
..I set my browser to delete cookies on exit..then I don't have any spy-ware
staying on my machine. So then when I come here I have to log in on purpose..
..I used to stay logged in all the time automatically.

Wyatt

Sure and spammers ....

The guy's pretty fearless...even after his big crash last year.

So here's the question;

Will any team win a race this year outside of Ferrari & Mclarren? Who? How many?

I think BMW/Sauber might pick up a couple wins. They're getting closer. Toyota looks better this year as does Red Bull. But, probably, both are still a year away.

mmhh... I don't know... I think I wait one more race to see how the balance is... :-\
anyway I think you're probably right.

Cheers

Interesting week-end coming in..
Hamilton crashes out of Bahrain practice...  :o
But he recovers for today's practice I think  :-\

oh, btw there's the Mosley-trash-thing in the news but I really don't care anything other than the race  ::)

Cheers

Bartender, may I have another coffee, please ?

Max... .. . :;

Just saw the qualifications, interesting  8)

k

Yeah, in the end we have the 6 usual suspects in the 6 leading positions of the grid, I'm happy for Kubica's pole position.
I hope for an interesting race

Cheers

I'll take one too...in the morning around 4 am ... that's when F1 is live here. Folks are pretty nutty in my neck of the woods, Max. My friend Russ is traveling 30 minutes to be at my house by 4 for the pre-race show :o   Hey, if you can't be a little silly now and then, things can get pretty dull in a hurry, right? ::) 

Oh yes indeed  ;D
I'm getting a pot of coffee, since I've been late home tonight and I need a strong one as well

Well it certainly wasn't boring :o

I won't say anymore in case some of you haven't seen the highlights yet.

Oh we enjoyed the race.... and food was fine.... and beers as well  ;D
LOL

When I watch TV sports with my friends, we have a natural tendency to party...  ::)

Obviously 2 mistakes in the same race is fatal  ::)

I enjoyed the race, I realy like the circuit of Barein

k
 

Bars must all be closed. No beer or nuts for a couple of weeks :P

Yeah, somewhat surprising even with the bars closed, assuming all us nuts are still around >:D  ;D

We're getting ready for the next F1 event
(...or sports in general, just an excuse to get together  ;D)

Cheers

It'll be another early a.m. live start time in the States. Is 5 a.m. too early for Margaritas?  Ahh,...who cares  :D

I'm off for a weekend trip with my camper  ;)
Keep this place a live  :;

k

 :o

any breakfast ?  :-\

Ferrari did an excellent qualifying (1, 3) with Alonso 2nd but I think Kubica is no more an outsider and he can do well tomorrow.

Cheers

It's a shame that the track is pole=win, but it was quite a goods race anyway. Some fine driving, but also a bit of nastiness playing bumper cars :(

That was one hell of a crash earlier for the guy to (almost) walk away from!

I heard next year there will be new rules and it'll be much different from the current season.

from :
http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=Mark_Hughes (http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=Mark_Hughes)

 ???

The funny one is the FIA wanting to do away with the tire warmers!  The basis for most of these changes is to reduce costs. But, my guess is teams are just going to find another way to heat the tires...probably at more expense. And the slicks; didn't they just start requiring the grooves a couple years back? Opinions are that the FIA just doesn't get it, and the more changes they make to reduce costs, the more is necessarily spent on development. For example, take the change from 10 to 8 cylinder engines last year. And, any changes really won't keep costs low enough to keep undersponsored teams afloat...Super Aguri for example.

Perhaps they are changing focus back to driver skills more then to technology ?

k

Yeah, maybe so, Rony. I think its great that they dumped traction control. But on the other hand, technology is what has always set F1 apart.

But, the tire warmers...that's just idiocy to this naive fan. If you don't warm them up, you'll be sending drivers out on the track that have to run at different speeds, slipping and sliding around, until they get up to temperature. They're kind of a safety device in a way.

That said however, it doesn't really matter to me, its just fun to see what happens next!!

I hope so.... but not sure the new rules will work :-\

sad but true...  :(

Just as long as they don't keep changing the rules too often and de-stabilise the whole sport.

Are we warming up for turkish event ?
 ;D ;D

Cheers

Of course, LR!!    :;

I hope this in a slightly better timezone...  :-\

Hmmm Turkish delight anyone ;D

Welcome back Kara - how did the holiday go?

Are you ready for the Montecarlo F1 week-end ?  :;

Not ready yet, but getting prepared :)
We have a bank holiday on Monday over here, so I'll have plenty of recovery time :P

Historically, its been a somewhat boring race...hard to pass. Qualifying becomes much more important. BUT, I heard it might rain....then we'll be in for some entertainment  :;

Monte Carlo is so unique, I would love to visit there someday.

This is the biggest race weekend of the year; F1 in the early morning, the Indy 500 at 10:00 am, and the NASCAR Coca Cola 600 at around 3 pm. Luckily like folderol, I'm off on Monday (whew!)

Yes  :-X


I'm sure you'll have some fun  ;D

I forgot to say qualifying is very important there.
and Ferrari did well, followed by Hamilton.  ;)

Very true, there is not a lot space to pass....
Monaco is a great race to see live, I was there last year. It is great to see and hear those cars in the streets of the city.

k

:o you've been very lucky, I think it's exciting to... 'breath' the atmosphere, adrenaline flows  ;D

Now this was some race, Monaco has the reputation of been a bit dul as race, but the rain made it very interesting !
And Hamilton kept his nerves under control  8)

Interesting it will be !

k
 

 8)
Yeah, it was fun ! I'm happy Kubica ended up doing well, I like his driving skills.

What a ####kin race. The look on Hamilton's face was a picture. He so wanted this one, especially after last year.

Honestly, Rony, I think you just qualified P1, and lapped all comers in the race with that one!!! Where's that "green with envy' emoticon :o

Fun race for sure. Too bad about Sutil. That would have been a great result for him and Force Indy. That said though, I was happy for Vettel. He's had his share of misfortune this year.

Well gotta run, the Indy 500 awaits me  :;

mmhhh... I can see Dan Wheldon leading the race, right now, let's see how it goes...  :-\

Indy ... what?  >:D

I don't know if you're into motorbikes races or not..
Next week-end World-superbike circus will stop in Salt lake city, Utah for the very first race there.
It'll be interesting since it's a new track for all the riders...

Cheers

If its racing, I like it LR!!  However, I can only allow myself so many vices (especially TV broadcasts) or I never get anything done ::)  So, I limit myself to NASCAR, F1, Indy 500, all 4 golf majors, the NCAA basketball final four, House, Boston Legal, American Idol (shhh, don't tell anyone!), and a few assorted historical/educational/concert specials if they spark interest.

Geez, that sounds like a lot! Certainly more than you asked about, LR :D

Are you talking about spring/summer ?  :-\ I don't see football in the list...  ;D

Cheers

mmmhhh... I think Canadian GP qualifying is going to start right now....

Oh yeah, football. Geez, I need to cut down  :-[

I thought Kubica had it there for a moment !

You're wrong there mate. European championship football (better known as soccer to your guys) just started. No F1 for me for a while.

 :-
 :o
 >:(

Let's wait for the race...

Yeah, European Championship is a big event, many good teams, every match is hi-level...

it seems the track needs repairs...  :-\

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/08062008/58/vital-repairwork-montreal.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/08062008/58/vital-repairwork-montreal.html)

ok, the beer is cool & the nuts are right in front of me... i'm ready  ;D

k

 :o Many spectacular things happened in this race...  ::)
...I'm happy R.Kubica wins  8)

 :; We beat the worldchampions 3-0

The Netherlands - Italy 3-0  :;

A lot of people will be late for work tomorrow  ;D ;D

Hehe, one guy at work is an 'extreme' football fan. He's late in to work after they've won a critical game.

... he's even later if they lose ;D

This morning in the radio: 'Dutch people has such a big mouth... but this time there's nothing wrong with it... if you win from Italy with 3-0, you may have a big mouth !'

OK, we'll have to get used to it  ;D

Not to fret, Italy is always a slow starter  ;)

Just be thankful that the “controversial goal” wasn’t the only goal!  All hell would have broken out if it was  >:D

Ok, guys. We're on a roll here. We beat France 4-1  :;
Already qualified for the quarter finals

Orange is the colour  ;D

Must admit we were a bit lucky in defence. But we scored some stunning goals.

Drinks are on me (http://bestsmileys.com/drinks/4.gif)

 >:D :-[   >:(

k

I'm certainly not an expert but I'm a bit disappointed to see Italy and France (1st and 2nd in the last world cup) far back in the 2 last positions of their division.... :-\

Hey guys, I've been busy lately. Must have put in about 80 hours at work last week. But the worst is past :-

So, hurray for BMW's 1-2 finish!!!

And, Hurray for the Dutch!!!!  (that's for you Martin ;) ;D)

Hi all.

I'm shutting up shop for a week's holiday in Croatia (doing as little as possible) ::)

See you all next week :D

Have a nice holliday Will

We are ready for France - Italy this evening....
I hope it's not there last game

k

No luck for the French. France-Italy  0-2

Netherlands - Romenia  2-0

The Dutch have to face the Russian team now on saturday in the quarter final. They look a pretty dangerous side. And they have a Dutch coach as well  ::)

Oh Russia - Netherlands is going to be a big match indeed.
I couldn't watch an entire game so far, but the next finals are going to be interesting.

Quarter final result: Russia-The Netherlands  3-1  :( 

The Dutch team didn't perform on the level that they had shown at the group stage.  The Dutch fans can pack up their gear and go home

Oh, well back to F1

Oh the match was up to the expectations, 2 great teams...

Yess, looking forward to see if Ferrari dominates the race as they did in qualyfing...  :-\

Saw this on Yahoo this morning:



Scott Kalitta's Funny Car burns as it heads down the track during qualifying Saturday, June 21, 2008, for the Lucas Oil NHRA SuperNationals at Old Bridge Township Raceway Park in Englishtown, N.J. Kalitta died after the car burst into flames and crashed at the end of the track.
(AP Photo/Kevin Hodapp)

8)

Wyatt

Saw the footage on Sunday. It basically just exploded, then again at the end of the track. You could tell from the footage he wasn't going to survive it. Tragic.

 :( I heard the news and I think these races are beyond dangerous...
Very sad news

On another thread Oren said he was glad to see me back - I didn't have the face to make side comments on there so I thought I'd front it out here ;D

Yes Oren, Croatia treated me very well. A great relaxing week in the sun with no newspapers, TV, Internet - Not even radio - bliss 8)

Mostly I meandered up and down the shoreline, the hardest decision being whether to chill in the sea or the next bar. I tried both - frequently :P

I may have to check it out again next year as I still haven't concluded which was best.

Couldn't happen to a nicer ZynAddSubFX player! ;)

Thanks Oren ;D

I'm having a late night/early morning today - been watching excerpts of the Glastonbury festival on the good old BBC. I really wish I was there. The Glastonbury crowd is very enthusiastic and supportive of the musicians.

There had been some sniping in the press about the lineup, especially about Jay Z. Now rap really isn't my thing, but kudos to the guy for turning it round on his critics and using their own words to show them up. The crowd loved it :D

Been watching Glastonbury as well. Good to see the weather is holding up. Last year was a disaster. Amy Whinehouse was great. Everyone expected her to drop off the stage after she had been to the hospital earlier this week  ;D Duffy is another one of my favourites at the moment.
One of the best festivals in Europe.

Very confused race at Silverstone... the rain was a factor...  :-\

This was a typical English summer day - of course that gives our lads a distinct advantage as it's normal motorway driving conditions ;D

Strange (and costly) decision by Ferrari on tyres ???

Did you get the impression that the crowd were, erm, somewhat 'pleased' with the result :D

 ;D

The Wimbledon Nadal-Federer match is also very interesting despite the many interruptions...  :o

I saw a magnificent sunset this evening (sorry didn't have a camera with me). There were quite thick 'fluffy' clouds over most of the sky except to the West, so the sun was lighting up the undersides of the clouds. Really dramatic, lots of reds, oranges, and golds.

F1 - Nice bit of driving from Lewis again. It seems that Silverstone really gave his confidence a boost, but what is happening to Ferrari? They seem to be all over the place lately!

mmmhh.. I don't know... :-\ it seems there's something wrong with Raikkonen and Massa... I can't see anything wrong among the technicians... but this is just my opinion.
Yesterday a great golf afternoon, I enjoyed watching the 'Open' on tv, a lot of wind...

Cheers

Now, now! That is no way to talk about the commentators ;D

Makes for tricky ( = interesting ) play doesn't it?

Its a lot of fun watching when the pros struggle to shoot par!.  Too bad Norman couldn't hang in there...that would have been a great story.

I was quite amused to see Alice Cooper on the One Show this evening admitting to being a golf addict.

Now there's a nice cross link ;D

It surprising sometimes to hear who's hooked on that crazy game. Actually, I think its more of a disease than anything  :D  I keep telling my golfing buddies I'm gonna take a few months off and then quit.

So ok, I guess I gotta ask now...anyone else here a golfer?

Well, another F1 to confound the 'experts'. I do feel really sorry for Massa. He drove a perfect race only to have his engine blow up three labs from the end.

It was an almost quiet race but it ended up with this big surprise  :o

We seem to have an increase in the amount of spam >:(

Any chance of making it so new users have to have their first 5 posts moderated, or something like that?

Hope that wouldn't cause too much work.

I don't think this is possible with the actual code of the forum.
I'll have to discuss this with Moon when he's back from holidays to see if there is a solution.

k

I wonder if a lot of that spam is automated?? ..often it seems to
get posted on the contest board..the first board on the list.

8)

Wyatt

Well, that was quite some race today. I thought Ferrari would really pull the stops out as it was their home turf, but it was not to be.

It's good to see more young drivers coming on the scene. It bodes well for the future.

Yeah, quite the unexpected!

Fred,

I tried golf, once, largely because of Alice. Call it teenage experimentation. Nearly clipped some old guy - turned out to be a local judge. I think it was his plaid pants that set me off....

Fortunately I did not continue the theme and also try hanging myself  ::) :P :D

Yup, the game remains the same :D

Kinda reminds me of the one time I played tennis..hit too many home runs..over that tall chain link fence is a home run, right?

8)

Wyatt

Right. Extra points for hitting a bystander, too, I understand.

Try it sometime with a lacrosse stick - makes for added interest... ;D

 :;
Getting ready for the Singapore race event !

Woow  :o ! What a disaster ! Ferrari had a bad day, Hamilton road is now easier  :)

mmmh... it's pretty dead in here....
What about F1 ? a chaotic start in Japan and a weird race. Kubica is holding very well top positions
For the american guys: great NFL games this week, all the early ones seems interesting.

Cheers

Can't help thinking that L.H. is suffering a severe bout of overconfidence. He just seems to keep taking dangerous chances, and as a result has just about frittered away his lead. Just two races to go and his lead is down to 5 points.

Looks like the title is up for grabs. I won't be making any bets ::)

Sure looks like Hamilton is losing his head again just like last year.

I was just noticing that in this thread,there are 6,207 views & 486 replies...that has to be one for the record books....it seems that there is more of an interest in sports-than there is in music here! ??? ;D

-Thom

Yeah, it must be tough to be that young and talented...almost like he gets nervous at crunch time. Remember last years sand trap!! Unbelievable turn of events.

Can you believe what happened to Massa in Singapore. 100s of millions of dollars invested and they are now back to the good ole lolly pop  ;D  Honestly, I believe the safety car rules really need to be changed. Probably no NASCAR fans here, but I think they do a much better job with caution rules.

 :D ::)

 ;D Actually to stay in a mathematical logic, you should compair this tread to the sum of all other treads  ;D

k

yep..the other day a feller gave me a real nice camouflage hat..now I can't find it!    ;D ;D ;D

..sometimes things hide in plain sight.  ;)

8)

Wyatt

For once Hammilton showed that he can handle stress, with succes  ;)

k

Yeah, he learnt how to discipline himself  ;D

Just hope he doesn't fall apart on the last race!

Getting ready for the last race of the season  ;)
I hope Hamilton keeps his nerves under control  ::)

k

I turned on my tv right now !  ;D

Again a great race and suspense until the last round!
I did enjoy it.

I'm fairly curious for the next season, Ferrari treathened to stop F1 if there would be new restriction to the engine in the next season  :o

k
 

Astonishing finish. Had me right on the edge of my seat!

Ferrari are blustering. If they drop out, it would do F1 no harm, but it would sure hit their sales figures :P

So the USA has a new president....
Don't know if it will be better, but it would be hard to be worst then it is now I guess.

k
 

I think it will certainly be more interesting!

I wouldn't want to be in his shoes though. Anyone taking over at this time has a mountain to climb - he has two :o

well, it's hard for everyone due to the economic crises coming in
it won't be easy for him

As many others here, after the end of the motor-sports season I watch with interest the NFL season.
I'm a bit surprised about the Tennessee excellent start, although they're a good team I wasn't expecting that kind of domination.
I also noticed NY Jets with Brett Favre are doing better now, after a couple of false-starts

Cheers

Quiet here lately  ???

kind of a quit time in sports as well. But the Datona 500 is this weekend, and in another month or so we can start getting excited about F1. Has anyone seen pictures of the new cars? Quite a bit different. The smaller back wing will take some getting used to!

From what I've read, their handling will be totally different. I won't be surprised if there is a major shake-up in the pecking order. The most mentally agile and flexible drivers will win out I think.

Will be interesting to see in how far that will change the races.

k

 :- I look forward to it

Well to be honest me too
I'm still hoping it comes back to a situation where the skills of the pilot are more important then the technology that is in the car...

k

Ha! You've been reading my mind again  :D

Today (well yesterday now!) I had a day off work, and went to Bletchley Park - This is something I've wanted to do for a long time. I actually spent about half the day there, loking around the various enigma/radio/computer exhibits. However, impressive though all this was, the thing that really blows your mind is the see (and hear!) the rebuilt Colossus computer actually running and decoding a paper tape. For those who don't know, this was the worlds first programmable computer, and its all valves, relays, plugs and switches.

I've attached a few photos I took, and if anyone is interested here is Bletchleys website link

Bletchley Park (http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/)

To be honnest, I love to see those old machines

k

Wow ! it must be very interesting.
I take a mental note in case I'll visit the area.... ;)

Actually being there and hearing the gently clicking relays, whirring tape drive, and seeing the pattern of lights shift all against the steady dull glow of the valves gives a very comfortable atmosphere. It has that strange hypnotically reassuring feel that an old grandfather clock does.

Thanks for the glimpse, Will.

I have read about it but never seen it.

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Wyatt

It's only just occurred to me that somehow photo number 1 got corrupted ???

Anyway I deleted and reinserted it
... but now it's the last picture instead of the first... Doh ::)

Well it's look like we're going to have a very interesting F1 season this year  8)
I seems to me that with the new rules, the cards has been redistributed.

Interesting race we had

k
 

Well, that's Formula 1! Astonishing.

Yeah ! many changes. Unexpected new powerful teams, Ferrari is the underdog now

Cheers

That was an astonishing first race. What a debut for the new Brawn team. Amazing that a relatively small team could produce a car and not one but two winning drivers after such a rocky year or so under the Honda flag.

Hamilton proved his skill to pull up as far as he did. All the teams did a good job with the exception of Farrari - they seem to have totally lost the plot!

There seems to be more of a mix of driving styles, and more taking chances, with quite unpredictable results of course.

Kimi Raikkonen led a Ferrari one-two with Felipe Massa in second practice for the Malaysian Grand Prix at Sepang  :-\

I hope it'll get more interesting with more competitors on the same level

Have you heard about Hamilton ? he was disqualified from third place in last week-end.
...anyway, he says he has a strong car and can do well here in Malaysia

Cheers

I feel sorry for the guy. He's told what to do by his boss, then told what to say, then gets done for it.

At his age and level of experience would you argue, and risk your entire career?

yeah, I see your point and I agree

Button takes pole position once again but Hamilton and Massa struggled and ended up far behind in the starting grid  :-\

Someone is talking about a wet race.... ???

Rain came, at last, and stopped the race...  :o
Not a full satisfactory Gp. I look forward to the next one

Cheers

Same here. It leaves too many might-have-beens. That was some rain too :o

ok the rain stopped the race, but I still feel that it will be a very interesting season

k

Half points awarded. Actually hurts the top finishers. Was a chance for button to get a good points lead over the pack.

There was actually some very good racing...like that Webber/Alonzo duel. The new rules may have helped the racing a bit.

Its nice to see the usual suspects getting it handed to them, but I'm kinda old school and like to see things change over time. For me, mass change kind of nums the drama...if that makes any sense at all.

On lie gate, Hamilton is still a kid. Perhaps when he matures he'll learn that there is never a good reason to lie. I like the action by the stewards...sends a proper message.

Spam rate seems to be climbing lately :(

On the upside, it's nowhere near as bad as it is on a lot of other forms, and our honeypot seems to catch the majority of it. :P

Yeah, it seems it was a pretty good idea...

Sebastian Vettel won the Formula 1 Grand Prix in China!!!
Why I write this?
He is a german race driver with great talent. :;

Andreas

A well deserved win. He was snapping at the heels of the leaders all last season :)

Lots of upsets this season. Rip up the form book, it's a free-for-all!

Brawn GP cars keep up with their pace  :o
Hamilton is struggling to reach the top drivers and Ferrari got his first points
Very odd start this year...  :-\

Cheers

I'm back from the Cafe where I watched Montecarlo race with my fiends...
Bearing in mind this is an uncommon racetrack I hope Ferrari struggling has finished.
Button streak is incredible

Cheers

Yeah, Button and Braun's performance has simply been amazing...bordering on shocking. Fun to watch!

I do love it when someone proves all their critics wrong ... then rubs it in another 4 times ;D

Formula 1 is good but a little boring. Much more action and fun is in the FIA WTCC. Have a look to the first 3 minutes from last race in Pau. ;D ;D :;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wGG4R5zjjg

Andreas

Have to agree, Andreas, F1 can be a little boring.  However, you can't find the level of offtrack entertainment anywhere else...that is if you like cheating, espionage, crazy rulemaking, pompous personalities, questionable behavior from top officials, and the ripest example of capitalism anywhere!!!

Unfortunately, ecklestone and the FIA may have gone to far this time with next years rules changes. The split of the top teams from F1 would be devastating to the series.  You'd think they would have learned something from the American debacle between Champ Car and the IRL.

Well I'm back after a distinctly damp holiday. Just one really good day and that was Saturday which was spent in York and the immediate surroundings.

With all the activity on here while I was away, I guess I'll have to spend the next two weeks playing catch-up... again!

My first re-connect with technology was the evening news. It seems they finally gave Lewis Hamilton a car with a wheel on each corner and a working engine! Very sorry to hear about that crash in qualifying.

Welcome back Will  8)
Sorry to hear about your holliday.

Good to have you back, Will.

8)

Wyatt

Oh happy, happy me :)

Friday, about 4:30pm (at work) saw the final resolution of a problem bit of kit that has taken over 6 months to fix.

The machine would fail to start every Monday morning until it had been swithced off and on several time and generally bashed and sworn at by the operators. After that it would be fine for the entire week.

This is just about the worst kind of intermittent fault. It took us several month tracking it down to one control module, after eliminating all the usual relays, switches etc. Also, the machine is an early 1980s build, which was very much a 'transition' period and means it has just about every kind of electrical and electonic system in it :(

Once narrowed down to this module, all the other engineers gleefully washed their hands of it. "Transistors and chips mate - that means you." was their happy cry. To make matters worse, the production manager wanted the machine back in operation (such as it was) at least 3 days a week, so no pressure then!

The thing was so critical, that even the act of unbolting it from it's mountings would clear the fault. From experience I knew that just had to be a hairline fracture somewhere, so I'd spend a day pooring over it with a very bright light and high power magnifier, which is a hell of a strain on these old eyes.

The main circuit board was actually in remarkable good condtion for its age, and having resoldered a number of possibly suspect joints. I'd take it back, and wait for the inevitable "Nope. Still the same"..

Finally I had the bright idea of creating a sort of protective plastic bag cocoon in the machine with the offending unit mounted as usual but without any of the casing. Monday came and I was waiting for it. The operators were told not to touch it at all, and I was the one who switched it on, just once. The fault was there and I could extremely carefully poke around the board. After a couple of hours of this (in an extremely cramped place under the machine) I finally spotted a dead internal power line. Bridging across it sparked the machine into life, and, of course cleared the fault.

It wasn't till Thursday I could take the board off the machine to try to find the exact cause, and then, even knowing what the problem was didn't tell me where it was! By the end of friday I was getting deperate. Every part of that line that I could see was in perfect condition. I'm ashamed to admit it took one of the office girls to nudge me in the right direction. "Maybe it's a bit you can't see".

Removing a couple of large components reavealed it. Indeed a hairline fracture caused by years of tiny micro-movements of one of the components that had been glued to the board in manufacture, only the glue missed its target and hit this bit of trackwork. instead.

The thing with hairlines is that, left switched off, a film of oxide builds up breaking the connection, but the most minute movement rubs this off, and a sudden electical charge can also perfom a temporary 'micro-weld'.

Not even waiting till Monday to declare victory? ::) :D

Interesting story Will


 >:D ;D

k

Occasionally you just know you've got it. Aparently the operator was just about to switch off again from habbit, when he realised it had started first time ;D

It seems we have a new F1 world champion. Brazil does seem to be the decider in recent years. This race was anything but predictable!

True, an interesting race

k

Events like this are one of the few times I miss my TV.  Grand Prix was one of the few things I used to watch before I ditched my TV. Congrats to Jenson Button  :- :-

What you need to do is find a nice local pub with a TV :)

Wow! Almost down to page three :o

We nearly lost this one guys :P

Well, we'll see Shumacher back in F1 this time on Mercedes...
I find this extremely interesting, for me it will show if the magic was Ferari or the driver.

Looking forward to this

k

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............................now, will you please stop that incessant sniffing...? :D

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Well, it ain't formula one racing, but the Canadians beat the whole world at hockey - again.
(perhaps this post should have been made under "Beer and Doughnuts"... ;))

Big deal :P ::)

Now on to meaningful topics...

The US team won't be lining up on the grid this year. Very disappointing.

Had a Corona on Monday. Forgot how much I like beer.

Bought some almonds & macadamias today...there ya have it...beer & nuts!

One last thing (for now)...

The aerial shots from the Olympic sites were simply stunning. Going to have to visit soon.

Hmmm... Assaulted peanut?

I know... I used to play hockey, before it became an exercise in "domination through intimidation".
Had a run-in with this kid (during a practice game), a nephew of a famous NHL star, and felt like he'd nearly decapitated me. His target: me, not the puck. We were about 16 years old; seems I lost interest in the game about that time...

I used to be a goalie until the guys my age got really good at shooting.  Then a friend said  "Are you nuts? He is shooting as hard as he can and you are intentionally trying to get in the way of it!"

About then I came to my senses.
 Tried switching to defense the next year, but had some experiences like Oren that once again brought me to my senses (once I recovered)

Being from Detroit its the only sport we can count on..  :o

I never could get into these 'violent' games :o For me it was things like running, swimming etc. No contact with the other side ;)

I actually enjoyed the contact.  The roughing around was fun.  When it bacame more 'serious' I decided it was time to let common sense kick in. If it could have stayed roughing around for fun I'd still play, but some guys got too physical where the fun went away real fast.

So I turned into the next great tennis star!  Well almost ..  ;D

A goalie, eh? Sorta like a drummer - all reflexes, and attitude... ;D
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I had the pleasure of spending some time with Johnny Bower in a fishing camp up north. He was one of the last goal keepers to play without a mask, and his face was just covered in small scars. Tough man!

Tough, yeah.
Brains; I question..  :)

Makes me think of American football, where the game became so dangerous they really needed all that padding.  Whats the point?
Mind you I can't understand all those stops and starts anyway. The game doesn't seem to have any sort of flow.

I enjoy football.  I turned to that after quiting hockey.
Eventually I dislocated my shoulder and that one ended too.
So it was tennis from then on. I started tennis early on in life and accomplished more in that than any of the others.

American football is a lot of stop/start, but the strategy during those 30 second breaks is fun.  Figuring out what the other guy is going to do, etc.
Then full force attempts at moving the ball. The right play and good execution are the challenge. Then before you really recover from the previous effort, you are lining up for the next battle.  It really is a game of battles, individual and team, and has a touch of chess thrown in.

Football is much more complicated than hockey.  Hockey is more spontaneous and reaction based.  However icing and off-sides are pretty much the only rules (other than unfair individual play like tripping etc)  So I think football takes a little more planning/thinking.   But hockey is much more exciting. IMO anyway.

Ever seen french rugby = football without protection  ;D

k

Yes, I have watched Rugby and question their sanity  :)

There is a reason those American football players wear all that padding, and most of them still suffer quite a bit from their profession.  I can only imagine the later life of Rugby players.

Interesting F1 result today - bloody boring race, mind you :( but then Bahrain always is!

Might take a while for Schumacher to get into his stride again.

I feel sorry for Vettel - he had the race in the bag until the car went weird on him.

What do you think of the new rules regarding fuel. I think I liked the old rules better; strategy for fuel load during qualifying & 2 vs 3 stops in the race. Looks like 1 tire stop may now be the norm. Less entertaining for me. That said, it seems F1 is usually quite keen on fixing things that aren't broke.

True, I liked old rules better.
I found the race quite bouhring

k

I think that is the common thought of just about everyone!

Been rather busy lately and out of the loop. Hopefully I'll be able to catch up a bit over the weekend.

Red Bull are not happy after the fiasco yesterday. They had the Number 1 & 2 positions in the bag, then got scrapping with each other. Result Hamilton and Button got Numbers 1 & 2 :D

Moral - don't get greedy :P

Didn't see the race, I wasn't at home
Well, Hamilton should be happy to be back on the podium...

k

Funny how it's always the other guy's fault ::)

Well, Glastonbury is under way. Looks like they're going to get decent weather this year too.

I went there in 2000, had a fantastic time. Anyone else been?

O.o 2000 is the last time I was at Glastonbury too ..The fall, The The, David Bowie..... amazing times ;)

Did you see that crash of Webbers !
A 180° turn and landed upside down, and wasn't even injured, quite a proof of technology used in F1

k

Astonishing. I really didn't expect to see him get out of it!

Disgraceful behavior by the Ferrari team boss. As far as I'm concerned Massa won that race. The fine is pathetic, but hopefully there will be more action taken. Up until Massa was ordered to let Alonso through (and yes it was clearly an order clumsily worded to suggest it wasn't) I was quite supportive of Ferrari, as they've had a poor couple of seasons. But now I hope they get taken to the cleaners.

Poetic justice would be for Alonso to be bumped down to third place. Thinking on, I remember Ferrari have been involved in a lot of shady practices over the years, including industrial espionage.

F1 is more like a soap opera than a racing league. However, I think that's what makes fun!!

Still not able to get involved in anything. Just feel bleagh most of the time. Practicing on the guitar a bit though, so that's something. Going for a short break to Yorkshire at the end of the month so hopefully that'll break the mood.

For the first time ever I'm watching The Last Night of the Proms on BBC iPlayer. This is because I've now got {spit} digital TV and signal is dropping out completely here - never had that with analogue.

iPlayer video is crap, but the sound is really quite good all considered.

Digital TV has the same problems here... that why I still have my satellite receiver

k

What's a T.V?

 I threw mine out years ago, didn't fancy paying £145 for a licence for something I watched maybe 2hrs a week  ;D

Getting that way for me actually. Apart from wanting (and failing) to watch the Proms, I can't remember that last time I switched the telly on.